[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Oct-02

Present: Regina, Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Jan, Regina, Mike

Tickets/Topics

 * Support "Add all to dictionary" - multiple unknown words at once
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163671
   + use case not straight-forward, instead of adding all unknown words
     it might be more suitable to hide the wavy lines (Heiko)
   + use case is real (Eyal)
   + easing import/export of dictionaries is needed, see 157981, but
     "Add all" would be difficult to understand (Jan)
   + current action "Add to Dictionary" could be changed into "Add unknown
     words to dictionary"in case of a selection (Eyal)
     + different context, likely quite some work (Heiko)
     + selection solution sounds right and serves some use cases (Sahil)
   + rather work on the import/export/management topics (Jan, Eyal)
   + "spelling" / F7 opens a dialog, where "Add to Dictionary" is
     just a click away (Heiko)
   + additional functions could be added to this dialog; still expect
     a command for easy access (with a confirmation dialog) (Eyal)
   => comment

 * natural sort of data range is not written to file although a suitable
   attribute exists
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161948
     Proposal (Regina)
       + Alpha-numeric (A1.14, A1.2, A10, A2.5)
       + Natural sort (A1.14, A1.2, A2.5, A10)
       + Split sort (A1.2, A1.14, A2.5, A10)
   + alpha-numeric not clear, how is this "natural" - compared to
     other, what is split (Mike)
   + complex functions never can be named in a way that makes
     everything perfectly clear to users; defer to documentation
     or tooltips (Heiko, Eyal)
   + alternatives could be a preview that sorts depending on the
     selection or a static text with a more verbose explanation (Eyal)
     + preview close to impossible since actual sort starts when
       the dialog is closed (Regina)
   + we may switch from a dropdown to radio buttons to show
     individual tooltips (Eyal)
   + explanations should go into a help page (Sahil)
     + "Documentation is never a solution for UI problems" (Eyal)
   + (i)-button on the control that opens the sidebar with some kind
     of documentation could help (Sahil)
   + "Order:" label could become "Order for textual content:" if the
     radio buttons come below (Heiko)
   + use case unclear (Heiko)
     + split sort is for IP numbers, for example (Regina)
   + Suggest an alternative solution (Eyal) with:
     [ ] Natural Sort
         + or "Recognize numbers within strings", "Parse numbers in Strings",
           "Numeric Sort" (Eyal)
         ( ) Use entire numbers
         ( ) Split integer and fractional parts
   + not much advantage with a more complex interaction (Heiko)
   + some "bike-shedding" on the specific labels would be useful (Eyal)
   => comment and let the doer decide

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