[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Sep-24

Present: Eyal, Sahil, Heiko


Tickets/Topics

 * [META] Notebookbar: bugs and enhancements
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062

   + Missing flexibility
     + load/save custom or default User Interface UI layout variants
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148121
   + Change default UI
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

   + dislike the Notebookbar as all commands are crammed into a small area
     with no white-space, no label, I have to understand the icons very well;
     need to switch tabs is often annoying (Heiko)
   + onlyoffice does better with a plain list of functions per menubutton
     at the Insert tab, for example (Eyal)
   + those buttons and in particular more nicely designed floating widgets
     like for special characters are desirable (Heiko)
   * MSO shows details/more options in the expanded menus or the widgets
     which leads to a more plain primary UI (Sahil)
   * better order of content and labeled categories helps a lot (Eyal)
   * the appearance is responsive and changes the button size depending on
     the available space (Sahil)
   * our tabs don't look like physical tabs (Eyal)
     + unlike other applications we use system colors (not sure about
       this though) (Heiko)
     + different toolkits (Sahil)
   * problems are clear but what can we do? (Heiko)
     + dedicated strings for Notebookbars (Heiko)
     + variable color for the NB and tabs (Heiko)
     + add labels to categories, and perhaps restructure the content
       so we can label the content (Heiko)
     + survey the Insert tab content with usability methods and
       statistics (Eyal)
     + introduce more/better menubutton and widgets (Eyal)
     + tag more requests as easy hacks (Eyal)

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