[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Sep-18

Present: Sahil, Bogdan, Jan, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Stuart

Tickets/Topics

 * Assign ALT+LeftArrow and ALT+RightArrow for back and forward
   navigation, respectively
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168291
   + usually back/forth on browsers; also in MSO for web content
   + .uno:NavigateBack / .uno:NavigateForward available for
     customization (Stuart)
   + don't hard-code to leave this option open - unless there
     are many requests (Sahil)
   + tdf#149820 - Hot key to return cursor to previous position,
     makes it two (Heiko)
   => WF (duplicate this ticket and wait for more requests)

 * Bullet Library has repetitive content
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168292
   + do not use different sizes like U+2022 vs. U+25CF but change
     the repetition (Sahil)
   + A multi-level bulleted list style, with different bullet sizes
     relative to the character size - is aesthetically displeasing;
     if we want to "showcase" our variety of bullets, better to bunch
     different bullets similar in size into a style, rather than
     similar-looking bullets of different sizes into a style (Eyal)
   + move the small bullet to the end of the list (Heiko)
   + use “✸” (U+2738) and/or “✿” (U+273F) instead (Sahil)
   => comment for a last input

 * Simplify Page Break and Page Style Handling in Writer
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168272
   + duplicates Bug 161078 - "Allow direct formatting for page sequences
     instead of editing the style" (Stuart)
   + Bug 161078 is not focused on behavior when breaking pages, nor
     on the style of individual pages; it is somewhat orthogonal
     to this proposal. (Eyal)
   + MSO offers a toggle for Landscape/Portrait but also applies
     it to all pages with the current style
   + Softmaker does the same (Jan)
   + common use case to change the orientation on just one page (Heiko)
   + proposal is to find the last paragraph on the previous page
     and on the current page and add a paragraph break with a new
     page orientation for both (Heiko)
   + That's already possible right now; the proposal is to essentially force
     a change of page style, and having the continuation of the current
     style be just one option out of many, rather than the default; plus making
     the choice of page style more in-your-face (Eyal)
   + sounds like an interesting easyhack (Sahil)
   + how to revert? (Jan)
     + the function would be a toggle and the function needs to
       check whether the paragraphs have a page break and just modify
       then (Heiko)
   + selections are to consider, eg. meaning to toggle two pages
   + There would be an interesting synergy between this proposal and bug 161078,
     since the "new style" could just be DF, based on the existing (named or DF)
     style. Will comment on this more extensively on the bug page. (Eyal)
   => comment (and don't make it a duplicate)

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