[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Aug-27

Present: Eyal, John, Heiko
Comments: Stuart

Tickets/Topics

 * Styles: add "Custom and Applied Styles" option
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167949
   + reasonable request (Stuart)
   + use case might be acceptable but combining filters is odd
     and I'd rather add a checkbox "[ ] Applied only" (Heiko)
   + some combinations are legit, eg. hierarchical and any filter (Eyal)
     + is part of the enhancement proposal, see design blog
     + Hierarchical is a view mode all, other are (all? mostly?) filters
   + request is an OR combination while checkboxes are AND
   + suggest a checkbox list that allows to check all filter types or
     a subset (Eyal)
   => go for it

 * FillAuto doesn't fill formulas in hidden columns
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85170
   + would be dangerous to fill hidden cells (Markus, Andreas)
   + we could query the user on mouse release whether to fill hidden
     cells (or at least to warn) (Eyal)
   + behavior with popups would not be surprising for users
     coming from MSO (Eyal, John)
   + should be configurable (Eyal)
   + changing the core workflow should be done very carefully and
     only with good reasons (John, Eyal)
   + If you fill a range with formulae which use the row (or column)
     index, with the current behavior - on one hand, you're skipping
     the hidden rows (resp. columns), but on the other hand - the
     values aren't contiguous, and you will be 'missing' the values
     that the hidden rows (resp. columns) would have gotten. (Eyal)
   => comment

 * Paste into formula bar should keep newlines
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167486
   + resolved invalid

 * In Chart, there is no Rotation item in Sidebar Properties
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167635
   + shapes and images have rotation, flip, and arrange controls
     in the sidebar; neither charts nor formulae or other objects
     have it
   + wouldn't hurt to add but obviously not a high priority (Eyal, John)
   + no way to rotate a chart in Writer for some reason (Heiko)
   => comment

 * Export all sheets as CSV
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135762
   + we should make sure not to break any standards - adhering to them is
     important, e.g. see:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/recommended-open-standards-for-government/tabular-data-standard
     (John)
   + GSheet and Excel cannot export multiple sheets to CSV at all (John)
   + users may also want to save multiple sheets in other formats
     such as txt, rtf, tsv, html... (Eyal)
   + a) add another checkbox to the file dialog
     + -1 because it breaks the system default layout (Heiko)
   + b) another filter type like "Multiple Text CSV (*.csv)"
     + users could become greedy and want the same for other formats
       exploding the filter list (Eyal)
   + c) Tools > Options > Load/Save: "[ ] Save all sheets as separate CSVs"
     + would not be suited if user need to switch the option
       frequently (Heiko)
   + d) another top level command "Save Active Sheet As..." vs.
        "Save As..." with all the current filters below
     + changes the default and users familiar with the current workflow
       have to learn that Save As... exports all sheets as CSVs or the like
   => comment


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