[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Aug-13

Present: Sahil, Eyal, John, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Werner, Telesto


Tickets/Topics

 * Writer table formulas: hide "phd"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167580
   + +1 (Stuart, Heiko)
   + "Expression faulty", eg after "=phd <a1>" unclear and we should
     explain why (Sahil)
     + different topic (Heiko)
   + objection on principle; why was it added in first place (Eyal)
     + probably because of compatibility reason (Heiko)
     + =a1+phd15 => !Syntax Error, 15ﮜȦ in MSO; and no percent function
       in a recent version (Heiko)
   + miscalculation? (Sahil); not sure how to interpret "x phd" (Heiko)
   + formula work also outside tables; =10% reveals the same result as
     = 10 phd (Eyal)
   => agreement to hide phd

 * When the font format of a cell is bold, the corresponding
   parentheses in the formula cannot be identified
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166053
   + unclear how boldening works (some numeric weight or just not
     regular) (Eyal)
   + do not allow bold for cells with formulas (Sahil)
   + a) if a user messes up with the formatting so it should be (Heiko)
   + b) drop all formatting in edit mode (Heiko)
   + c) invert the format and show the corresponding bracket in regular
     if the cell text is bold (Heiko)
   + like c) (Eyal)
   => comment

 * Excessive number of rows and columns
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167674
   + no need (Werner)
   + hiding rows/columns works (Heiko)
   + inappropriate scrollbar behavior (Telesto)
   + it should be possible to limit the number of rows/columns (Eyal)
     + disagree, there is no use case that cannot be solved with
       hiding (Heiko)
     + hidden col/rows can contain content and will be considered
       for calculations/macros etc. (Eyal)
     + agree with the use case (Sahil)
     + have a colleague that wanted this limitation (John)
   => comment

 * SLIDESHOW: Define Cursor per Slide, e.g. Arrow, Cross, Laser
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160422
   + option for the presenter console, at max (Stuart, Heiko)
     + changing the cursor should be simple and is done actually
       with the pen mode (Heiko)
   + cursor per region could be nice (Eyal)
     + but requires standardization cross-application (Heiko)
   + easy to implement, region could be done by mapping the
     cursor to style names (Sahil)
   => comment

 * Vertical tabs
   + done (except some Base dialogs, Hyperlink, and Welcome)
   + please check carefully for inappropriate icons, wrong labels
     bad alignment, positioning, artifacts etc.
   + list of dialogs attached to 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167084

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