Re: [libreoffice-design] Feedback on Border Feature in LibreOffice Writer/Calc

Dear Zain Tahir,

You may have touched on a topic for which legacy MS-Office-workalike constraints do indeed dictate 
some awkwardness (particularly with regard to inner borders - which can be explained in detail) 
but, for lack of specificity, I'm not sure that those are the issues bothering you.

For example, you write that
>  the border interface */feels/* outdated and unintuitive
and
> the *workflow */feels/* disconnected from modern UI standards.*
[emphasis on "feels" added].  As you must understand, *feelings* -- ungrounded in any specifics 
about the behavior you find discordant and what you regard as ideal -- are at best very nebulous ideas, too 
nebulous for design discussion.

A bit more specifically, when you say,
>     The *presets and previews don’t accurately reflect the applied output.*
I begin to suspect that I may know what is bothering you - but then again, my inference may be 
wrong. Again, *specific* examples would be helpful.

Without more specificity, we simply don't have a design discussion.

Kind regards,
John

On 2025-07-14 09:32, Zain Tahir wrote:
> ...
> Right now, the border interface feels outdated and unintuitive:
>   *
>     The *presets and previews don’t accurately reflect the applied output.*
>   *
>     The *UI is cluttered*, and the settings don’t offer real-time feedback.
>   *
>     *Basic border operations (like applying different styles to
>     different sides)* require more steps than they should.
>   *
>     In general, the *workflow feels disconnected from modern UI standards.*
>
> I genuinely appreciate the work the team puts in — and I’m only sharing this because I see 
> potential for massive improvement. A streamlined, modernized border editor (with live preview and 
> more intuitive layout) would greatly boost productivity and usability.
>
> Thanks for your time and your continued efforts in making LibreOffice better.
>
> Best regards,
> *Zain Tahir*
> zaintahirbajwa@gmail.com

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