[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Apr-09

Present: Eyal, John, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Ilmari, Regina, Samuel


Tickets/Topics

 * Consider using vertical tabs for any GTK dialog with more than 6 tabs
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165814
   + VT is more comfortable than the shifting with HT; moving more of
     the dialog layouts, but incrementally (Stuart)
   + VT could provide a nice design touch but have some blockers for now
     + bug 163008 - Vertical tabs ignore layout for icons
     + Bug 165474 - Vertical Style editing dialogs--no tabs should be
                    out-of-view
     + Bug 161491 - Paragraph preview image is cut with VCLs gen, qt, win
     + Bug 161492 - Vertical Tab dialogs--Options column in Area section
                    is not wide enough in paragraph style dialog
   + vertical tabs are not "ready" and "anti-usability" interface;
     suggest to switch back to horizontal tabs on _all_ dialogs (Eyal)
   + create tickets for every single dialog (Samuel)
   => keep ticket for later

 * Cursor is not moved correctly when using rows with merged cells in
   LibreOffice Writer
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165936
   + appear in the middle seems intentional (Ilmari)
   + MSO behavior more reasonable (Regina)
   + Microsoft behavior also effective on Calc; issue should be
     fixed (Eyal, John)
   => do so

 * Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902
   + libraries such as GraphViz exist that do the work;
     many users would benefit from such function (Eyal)
   + realize per extension (Heiko)
   + request somehow combines data management with Calc and visualization
     per Draw, which is a bit weird (John)
   => keep the ticket

 * Show the UI selection dialog on first start-up
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137931
   + I want a first-start dialog (Eyal, John)
   => will look into it (Heiko)

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