[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Mar-20

Present: Shail, Eyal, Mihai, Rizal, Heiko
Comments: Regina, Miguel

Tickets/Topics

 * Reverse page switching direction when scrolling the mouse in
   the print dialog preview
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165371
   + intuition for both, similar to spinedit is upwards more
     or, alternatively, pages are stacked and the next is below (Eyal)
   + different in my setup (Sahil)
   + prefer wheel down to scroll down towards the next page (Mihai)
   => do as requested

 * Data Provider: Rename "Apply" button to "Preview"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165679
   + good idea (Miguel)
   + if, at all, it should be "Update" (Heiko)
   + remove the button entirely and update automatically (Mihai, Sahil)
   + similar discussion recently in bug 165229 (Eyal)
   + if removal is not possible we could rename it to
     "Update Preview" (Mihai)
   => comment

 * On loading a CSV file, don't remember the From Row setting
   after application restart
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165684
   + makes sense to remember user settings in general but
     some scenarios require the opposite; we could add a switch,
     eg. an icon-only button, to let users decide whether to store
     or rather apply the stored settings; this would have to be
     a pattern also relevant for other dialogs; suggest to place
     the option next to the frame label to not manage every single
     item (Heiko)
   + provide an option on the very top of the dialog to either
     use the detection and all manually remembered "named" settings;
     drop the automatic settings memory; only in case of the CSV
     dialog because of the detection feature (Eyal)
     + auto detection in bug 152336
   + add a reset button that allows to switch back to factory
     defaults (Sahil)
   + like the full memory personally yet never changed the row (Mihai)
   => comment on the ticket

 * UI: Add-animation requires adding before choosing the effect
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145029
   + additional click... surprising, frustrating and not necessary;
     example by Powerpoint is better (Eyal)
   + adding animation with a category contradicts changing it (Heiko)
   + current solution makes sense to me (Mihai, Sahil, Heiko)
   + previous discussion about animation sidebar in
     https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2021/msg00102.html
   => resolve NAB/WF

 * Insert Row/Column buttons should allow for repeating last action
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165616
   + plenty of alternatives (Regina, Miguel, Heiko)
   + disagree as it provides destructive commands too (Heiko)
   + support the request (Regina)
   + uno:Repeat not possible since the action is not consecutively;
     destructive action can be undone (Eyal)
   + expect toolbuttons to always work like combobutton rather than
     menubuttons; those buttons should always do the last action (Sahil)
   => comment

 * Need ability to control alignment of line numbering
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165680
   + line numbers do not have a fixed width, so alignment within a certain
     width is not possible; relative to other line number occurrences
     is not supported in ODF; same way of aligning on other apps (Regina)
   + LN uses a character style "Line Numbering" that can be changed
     by the user but never provides alignment as it is not a
     paragraph style (Mihai)
   + numbering is always done with Latin numerals (Eyal)
   + not worth any effort (Heiko, Regina)
   + some users might need the enhancement (Mihai, Sahil)
   => comment and keep the ticket

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