[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2024-Oct-31

Present: Sahil, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Gabor, Sandro, Regina, Eyal, Dieter, Stuart, Dennis, Rafael

Tickets/Topics

 * Indent marker from ruler disappears if multiple differently indented
   paragraphs are selected
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159559 (Impress)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75899 (Writer)
   + show markers of the paragraph containing the cursor, like PP (Gabor)
   + display the adjustment arrows shaded and allow the user to uniformize
     the indentations on the selected text (Sandro)
     + MS Word does this
   + show multiple rulers but disabled (Heiko)
   + keep as it is, multi-selection is not editing (Sahil)
     + hiding controls and values may look broken if there is just
       a tiny deviation (Heiko)
     + spotlight and inspector do a great job (Sahil)
   + entering a value in the sidebar when paragraphs with different indentation
     are selected, ie. the input field is empty, is accepted but never becomes
     effective and the sidebar never responses again on focus change (Eyal)
   => comment

 * "Point edit mode" confusing - suggests glue-point-related functionality
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163494
   + all good but extended tips missing (Regina)
   + "Point Edit Mode" icon suggests editing glue points (Eyal)
   + rename to "Control Point Edit Mode", "Control/Path Point Edit Mode",
     "Vertex & Control Point Edit Mode", or "Vertex Edit Mode" (Eyal)
   + difference between glue- and control point cannot be depicted in an icon,
     these are examples where user need to read the documentation (Heiko)
   + suggest to go at least with a curve (Eyal)
   + no objection to "Control Point Edit Mode" but also don't see much
     benefit, suggest to add just a tooltip (Heiko)
   + can live without toggle and perhaps add a hyphen like "Control-point edit
     mode", tooltip could be "Toggle control-point edit mode (Eyal)
   => comment

 * AutoCorrect options: Default settings should respect relationship between
   "Apply Styles" and "Delete spaces..."
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161866
   + switch off when Apply Style is not active (Dieter)
   + disable the while-typing "[T]" depending "[ ] Apply Styles" (Heiko)
   + bug in terms of the dependency should be fixed, ie. apply styles
     should be a separate option (Eyal)
   => do it

 * I would like to have some simplified LO-Applications
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163477
   + no feasible way to "dumb down" (Stuart)
   + provide a simplified UI as an alternative to text editors (Dennis)
   + could be realized per extension (Rafael)
   + dislike the idea of getting more simple and closer to text editor we
     should rather educate users to do proper text/document formatting (Heiko)
   + it's not simplifying towards text editors but rather to focus on
     less features, Wordpad or GDocs comes in mind (Eyal)
   + would completely remove access to advanced functions, eg. track
     changes are not on the toolbars neither the menus (Eyal)
   => someone needs to do the work

 * Frame boundary visibility is now controlled by View > Formatting Marks
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163537
   + patch submitted
   => in review

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