[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2024-Sep-19

Present: Sahil, Rafael, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Eyal, Cor, Regina

Tickets/Topics

 * Sidebar panel character deck/tab doesn't allow switching / indicate
   language groups
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153991
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153992
   + we should avoid bloating the sidebar (Heiko)
   + not against (Rafael)
   + most controls are in the toolbar as well, we probably need to
     implement it as a customizable UNO command (Sahil)
   + should be only available if CTL/CJK is checked (Rafael, Heiko)
   + could be realized per dropdown before the font listbox although
     it takes some space
   + unclear what switching could mean; isn't it recognized from
     the character language only? (Heiko)
   => go for it

 * Add "Source Sans Pro" to fallback font list for "Aptos"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162872
   + Source Sans Pro not bundled anymore, bug 136604,
     Metrics are nowhere near equivalent (Stuart)
     + bundling not needed (Regina)
   + decent similarity (Eyal, Cor, Regina)
   + not a good alternative yet we need some fallback (Rafael)
   => let's do it until we have a better alternative

 * UI : allow Alt + left / right to change width of panes as Navigator
   and Styles and formatting
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62954
   + rather drop hard-coded resizing of splitter, see bug 146906 (Heiko)
   + not aware of any place where alt+arrow change the splitter; and
     alt+left/right and top/down changes cell size in Calc (although
     not when the Stylist/Navigator is in focus) (Heiko)
   + key sequence interaction would be nice; maybe as extension (Sahil)
   + no use case, maybe accessibility? (Heiko)
   => pass over to a11y

 * UI Field  "Copy sort results to" in dialog Sort, tab options, missing
   button/does not allow shrinking
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113247
   + Range dropdown not labelled (Eyal)
   + whether range or address, the target is filled with the source -
     changing this is not beneficial (Heiko)
   + going with a true range rather than a plain address opens
     Pandora's box (Rafael)
   + needs to be converted to a ref dialog; shrink button can be limited
     to single cells (Rafael)
   + keep range? some users might use it (Rafael, Heiko)
   + add label "Start cell: [     ] <shrink> from: <range>"
     + if too large, just "At" would be good (Heiko)
     + or without labels or in two lines (Rafael)
   => do it

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