[libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Feb-22

On 22/02/2024 16:46, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>   * Simplified options dialogs

You seem to have ignored the basic problem with how this bug has been
handled, which I pointed out in comment:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90989#c9

>     + name, icons, interface, colors, ui lang, locale, and recovery should
>       be sufficient (Heiko)

Sufficient for what? I don't know, that sounds fishy.

>     + RTL/CTL/CJK is important (Hossein) but should follow the locale
> (Heiko),

Nope, shouldn't follow the locale. And that's because:

1. Very often, RTL/CTL-focused language users use computers with a
non-RTL/CTL locale - either on their own computers or others' computers.
2. People may be reading, or even writing, RTL/CTL content despite that
not being their locale-relevant language (e.g. immigrants and the
language of their country of origin).

>       and if a more complex setup is needed the advanced mode is a click
> away

I am wary that relegating settings to "advanced mode" is a way of
avoiding the problem of dialog simplicity rather than actually tackling
it. That's generally. For RTL/CTL specifically, I _know_ that this is
the case - because all of those RTL/CTL(/CJK) users will need the
"advanced" mode even when they don't want to "advanced" thing.

>     + could be done conditionally depending on locale setting (Sahil)

Again, not good enough.

>     + more tabs might be required in future (Hossein); possibly easier
> to use
>       than a scrolling window (Sahil)

Let's start by separating out the app-wide & module-wide settings from
the document-specific settings.

And then, we should probably separate out the default-template-ish
settings out of there too, like default fonts and stuff.


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