[libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Dec-20

I want to draw our attention to the first bug which was on the agenda in
yesterday's design meeting:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158588

I would say that bug is misnamed. It should be called:

"LibreOffice unexpectedly and strangely modifies an ODT file without
they user having done anything, and embedding unnecessary fonts nobody
asked it to."

IMHO it's several non-trivial issues rolled into one:

* LO's "contract" with the user as an ODT editor
* Where does the UI regarding font embedding choices belong?
* Does LO "know" about the actual use of different languages in a document?

I've commented on the bug myself but would encourage more of us to have
another look at it.

Eyal

PS - Sorry for missing the meeting :-(

On 20/12/2023 23:00, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Present: Sahil, Rafael, John, Heiko
> Comments: Dieter, Stuart
>
> Tickets/Topics
>
>   * Redesign font embedding options in
> sfx2/uiconfig/ui/documentfontspage.ui
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158588
>     + improve help (Dieter, bug 130185)
>     + dummy text with no embedded font = 28k, with all options on = 22000k
>       with "only used" 927k, with all but limited to latin = 1800k
>     + disable CTL & CJK depending on options and
>     + check by default and disable the "Only used fonts" unless
>       the first option "Embed fonts" is activated (Heiko)
>     + if the document contains and CTL/CJK font it would be
>       pointless to exclude them when saving used fonts only;
>       and the other option makes not much sense alone (Rafael)
>     + font scripts options needs a dev check
>     => do it


>   * FORMCONTROLS Enhancement: Fill Cell with Text Box in Calc
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158273
>     + check/enable anchor to cell (resize with cell) and fit to cell size
>       by default (Heiko)
>     + changing this makes users needy and they may ask for better chart
>       positioning, for example; how about a dedicated command to
>       achieve the goal (Rafael)
>     + could also be done per macro (Sahil)
>     + goal was here to insert/manipulate many form controls; the workflow
>       with copy/paste is tedious as cursor down or enter does not
>       behave like at normal cells; which could be changed (Heiko)
>    => comment
>
>   * Incorrectly export number 0 form calc to PDF
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158533
>     + option to show/include zero is on by default and one has to disable
>       it intentionally
>     + same behavior on Excel
>     + dependency to some archived PDF format is unclear
>     => ask the ESC
>
>   * New sidebar deck for comments
>     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106316
>     + splitter to expand the comments margin (Jim)
>     + comments in margin is sufficient for ordinary users (John)
>     + vertical space in margin is not enough for academia; management
>       is missing, eg. to find unresolved comments (Rafael)
>     + sidebar has limited vertical space
>       + but allows the list being unsynchronized ie. many comments on one
>       single page overlapping each other
>     + requirements: add filter by status, eg. resolved
>       no urgent need for the procrastination option "hide temporarily"
>     + mockup design: take the Onlyoffice example
> https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=191371;
> sort is
>       missing; referenced text should be visible in the sidebar pane
>     + enhancements: predefined responses? might be useful for some
> (Rafael),
>       but should be done resp. the list filled by users (Sahil)
>     + replace the comments in margin or amends it (John)
>     => improve the mockup and ask the community in a blog post

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