[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Sep-13

Present: John, Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Dieter, Stephane, Mike

Tickets/Topics

 * Separate Default Page Size from Language Locale
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149478
   + add an option to set the default page size (John, Eyal)
   + Consider placing the option elsewhere than Languages Settings
     | Language, as that is not intuitive & difficult to discover (Eyal)
   + templates are pretty easy to do and users should learn this (Dieter)
   => do it

 * UX review needed for Options - Writer - Compatibility dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157006
   + hide single GUI option (John, Heiko)
   + reorganize the other, ie. OpenOffice 1.1 together
     + perhaps combining all those options makes it easier (John)
   + rename, ie. use verbs at the beginning
   + shorten text if possible, ie. "Tolerate..." without " for
     compatibility..." (needs to be considered individually)
   + Perhaps consider having a drop-down list box for setting
     the selection to correspond to specific apps: OOo 1.1, some
     version(s) of MS Word etc. (Eyal)
   + Planning to comment on specifics in more detail on the bug page
     (Eyal)
   => easyhack

 * Tabs in Ruler not showing correctly
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157081
   + Windows show no automatic tab stop at all (only manual)
   + change design of default tab stop indicator and  (John)
   + use left/right pointing angle for LTR/RTL (Stephane)
   => do it

 * Inconsistent table row selection
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155670
   + nothing "surprising" in the selection, LibreOffice is
     doing well (Heiko)
   + LO behavior on is surprising, frustrates expectations and
     inconsistent (e.g. third-line-level vs first-line-level) (Eyal)
   + unclear use case /issue (John)
     + compatibility might be relevant (John)
     + don't think we need to make the same mistakes (Heiko)
     + Disagree, issue is very clear (Eyal)
   + Will try to make a video to better clarify the frustration (Eyal)
   => prolly NAB

 * Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153
   + prompt would be intrusive, static text in About dialog okay (Mike)
   + Windows has the (auto-)updater informing about new versions,
     Linux distributions prefer own update procedures, no need
     for more "incentives" (Heiko)
   + About dialog is not an incentive per se (Eyal)
   + rather invest in better update mechanism and "intrusive prompt"
     when new major updates are available (Eyal)
   + show an infobar on major version "Version is no longer supported"
     along with buttons "Update", "Show again", Don't bother again"
     (Eyal, John)
   => comment

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