[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jul-13

Present: Hossein, Cor, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Stephane, Shu, Eyal, David


Tickets/Topics

 * Removing "contextual groups" from the list of NB variants
   + Justin resolved some related tickets as WF/WFM
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar
   + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/12/21/evolving-past-the-restrictions-of-toolbars/.
   + pro removing: experimental state for long, some effort needed
   + con: would be a pity to just follow what others do
   + too many UI options anyway (Hossein)
     + unfortunately we do not have the manpower to improve these ideas
   + we have this ticket somewhere (Heiko)

 * Add an "all pages" view mode to Draw to scroll through all pages
   in canvas (without needing Page Pane)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156087
   + similar to Writer's multiple-page view; expected by many
     users (Stephane, Shu)
     + Impress has the Slide Sorter in an extra view mode
   + Draw is not a PDF viewer, WF (Stuart)
   + missing function (Shu)
   + Draw is not meant to show multi-page documents,
     dup of bug 141732 or invalid (Eyal)
   => resolve WF

 * Rename "rotation object" to "solid of revolution"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156099
   + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution (Tuomas)
   + ODF defines "a three-dimensional rotation shape based on the
     given polygon"; the more convoluted "solid of revolution" while
     lexically correct adds nothing to the UI or the UX (Stuart)
   => resolve NAB

 * Support distinction rather than override of conflicting
   subdocument styles
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155740
   + unclear use case (David)
   + some confirmation per document (Shu)
     + if we better go with a global master switch (Heiko)
   + master documents are a special workflow aiming for style
     consistency, WF (Mike, Hossein)
   + unclear use case (David)
   + copy/paste could solve alternative workflows (Shu)
   => resolve WF

 * When setting the Heading/Outline Numbering for a level to "None",
   still getting separators
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156089
   + works like in MSO, WF (Justin)
   + no reason to block, WF (Heiko)
   + asking to _clear_ the separator fields in case of None (Eyal)
     + remembering "Chapter/:" is not a (good) solution since users may
       change it for None into "-/>", or the like, making it very
       difficult to follow
   + behavior existing for years shouldn't change without
     good reasons (Hossein)
   + list style is something you shouldn't change multiple times
   => resolve WF

 * Autocorrect replaces " - " with " – " instead of " — "
   (en-dash instead of em-dash)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156046
   + maybe drop the conversion of single hyphen (Stuart)
   + typically two hyphen is an EN-dash, three EM (Heiko)
   + two dashes with / without spaces is kind of standard and
     working like this in MSO (Hossein)
   + clearly described in 
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/01/06040100.html
   + two dashes without spaces like 1--2 is not correctly
     converted (Heiko)
   => bug; do not change the behavior as described in the help

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