[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jun-07

Present: Eyal, John, Heiko
Comments: Mike, Andre, Stuart


Tickets/Topics

 * [Character styles] Make more clear that the font used is from
   the paragraph style
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153623
   + part of bug 88559 "Display of inherited attributes from parent
     styles in Styles dialog" (Mike)
   + visual clue that an attribute has not been explicitly set
     or unset is needed (Andre)
   + show an indicator on altered attributes (Eyal)
     + could be similar to system settings at KDE (Heiko)
   + not showing the actual attributes from the PS is a bug (Eyal, John)
   + changing the character format inline for multiple paragraphs empties
     the varying fields, which is easy to follow; otherwise it takes the value
     from the PS, again easy to understand
   => comment

 * WRITER: Can't define a character style for Regular font variant
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155113
   + starting from a PS with italic font, this attribute is taken into
     the CS and can be changed into regular, meaning it could be solved
     with the above (Heiko)
   + there are some reasons to create a CS not based on any PS (Eyal)
   + show the indicator in a greyed-out appearance if an attribute is
     changed and allow to make this sticky; clicking on the indicator toggles
     from on to off (removing individual attributes from a style)
   => easy to understand

 * Remove (or change functionality and label) of "Default" button
   in Styles tab of Insert Index dialog (see c1,c6,c7)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153653
   + decision for c6 & c7 needed (renaming proposals)
   + make style selection likewise the B&N dialog (Eyal)
     + does not work as this dialog has way less attributes to assign
   => go with context menus and maybe a trashbin-symbol in the middle
      for the factory setting

 * I want to choose my Notebookbar without changing my whole User Interface
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148123
   + merits as MUFFIN proposal (Stuart)
   + power users may like this, average users don't need it (John)
   + if the UI is customized (Notebookbar + Toolbars) it should
     be persistent (John)
   + menubar on/off is remembered
   + low priority (Eyal)
   => fix the bug

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