[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-12

Present: Cor, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Eyal, Seth, Dieter, Mike

Tickets/Topics

 * PS formatting gets lost, if you paste text into an new document
   with same name of PS, but different settings
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138786
   + keep target style when pasting a source with the same PS (Heiko)
     or let the user confirm (Dieter) or provide some kind of
     paste special option (Mike)
   + unclear use case (Heiko)
   + is a bug: pasting styled content should take the formatting
     from the source if the style is unused, otherwise the target style
     + works for some but not all styles (Cor)
   => bug for the particular style

 * "Drawing Style" should be renamed "Drawing Object Style"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152656
   + +1 (Stuart), -1 (Roman, Heiko), challenge for "Default Drawing Style"
   + "Default Object Style" or "Default Style" or
     "Default Drawing-Object Style" (Eyal)
   + not worth the effort (Cor)
   => resolve WF

 * Change "outline level" to "heading level" in UI and help pages for Writer
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152605
   + "Chapter and Outline Numbering", here "Heading Level" (Stuart)
   + "Heading and Outline Numbering" (Eyal) misleading as the request is about
     *Outline Level* supposedly named "Heading Level" (Seth)
   + just "Level"; the Level is defined in a "*Chapter* numbering"
     dialog; could be "Numbering level" (Heiko)
     + no improvement so rather keep it (Heiko)
   + agree to "Heading Level" but we also have a frame label; and the tab itself
     is named "Outline & List" (Cor)
   + afraid of unknown consequences (Cor)
   => recommend to keep "outline level"

 * Introduce a Slide/Page style category in Impress
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152655
   + provide kind of direct formatting opportunity via sidebar
     for many different options (Eyal)
   + unclear relation to master slides, everything should be covered (Cor)
   + introducing a new style means to trigger the standardization and
     to add the new feature ultimately to every application (Heiko)
   + it will bring _more_ complexity to the users..
     + better improve gaps in master slide implementation (Cor)
   => invalid request

 * "Hybrid PDF" must share embedded media between the ODT and the proper PDF
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152661
   + excessive increase in size (Eyal)
   + do understand the issue - would be nice if that can be avoided, but..
   + PDF and ODF are different formats, keeping both at full length
     has its value (Stuart, Heiko)
   + likely requires to change every PDF reader to access media from
     a shared-data section - or to update all ODF writer/reader and the
     standardization to do so (Cor)
   => WF

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