[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Aug-17

Present: John, Eyal, Cor, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Mike, Timur

Tickets/Topics

 * Render non-printing line numbers with faint gray
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150375
   + potential solution for bug 150237
     + starting with a text would show no line number unless line 5, which
       is odd (Eyal)
     + dialog is started manually so users are aware of what they
       are doing (Cor)
     + how about starting with #1 (Heiko)
   + faint numbers are neat but probably not worth the effort (Stuart)
   + showing the current line number could be done via the statusbar (Heiko)
     + users want to see numbers of multiple lines (Eyal)
   + line numbers are important for minutes, for example (Eyal)
   + faint grey lines could be realized as an extra "line numbering" run before
     the actual line numbering; the option could be stored in the registry
     and applied to the document independently from the line numbering setting
   + better change the default to every line (John, Cor, Eyal)
     + less development effort, no confusion
   => prefer grey lines but change default is okay too => needsDevAdvice (could
     be easyhackable)

 * Paragraph mark in rotated-character paragraph placed in middle of text
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150276
   + show pilcrow at the next character, ie. on top of a rotated text,
     meaning bottom-to-top (Eyal)
   + show it right of the rotation as MSO does (Heiko)
   + pilcrow should be in line with the cursor (Regina)
   + keep pilcrow unrotated (Mike)
   + having it on top or at the side shifts text either for hard or
     soft breaks; suggest therefore to have the hard break right/left and
     suppress soft break in rotated text (Heiko)
   + MSO puts the rotated word into the next line for both hard and soft
     breaks (so we have an incongruency anyway) (Heiko)
   + rotate the pilcrow/softbreak symbol and put it at the end of the line;
     accept that is overwritten (Eyal, John)
   + pilcrow should be drawn under the text (Eyal)
   + many pro and cons, wouldn't put effort in any (bad) solution (Cor)
   => comment on the ticket, needsDevEval

 * TABLES: Command "Distribute columns evenly" doesn't work for a single row
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150244
   + respect the selection or treat the whole table as some static evenly
     distributed object when a flag is set, as requested in bug 128279
     + don't agree with bug 128279 (Cor)
   + expect an action and to respect the selection (John, Cor)
     + alt+left/right interaction should not change (Cor)
   + two different things both make sense; running the action (per selection)
     switches off the state (Eyal)
   => accept the ticket, ie. don't change not selected columns if a selection
      is active

 * Last row does not remain hidden when deleting row(s)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150260
   + same behavior on MSO: if rows 15-last are empty, deleting some
     rows <15 doesn't show additional rows. If A1048576 is not empty, deleting
     rows 9-10 shows additional rows A1048575-A1048576 (Timur)
   + deleting columns does reduce the total number, however, in Excel but
     not in Calc
     + hiding columns sets width to zero
   + WPS never adds lines (Timur)
   + deleting rows add new to the end of the table, which are not hidden then;
     so hide the added row if the last one is hidden (Heiko)
     + how about other attributes such as formatting (Eyal)
       + only the hidden attribute
   => recommend to do it

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