Re: [libreoffice-design] Suggesting Re-addition of popup for # of items found/replaced

Hello Heiko,

Thank you for your response.

My main concern is the 'replace' functionality, which previously 
declared the number of items that are found and replaced as a popup. Now 
this information is written somewhere in the dialog (ctrl+H), but it is 
not in a way that screen readers can read it as before.

This can be fixed in two ways:

1) Exposing this text to the screen readers

2) Going back to the popup

My idea is that going back to the popup would be better, not only 
because MS Word use it from the old versions to the latest version, but 
because the information itself is something important, and in this way 
it can not be ignored by the user.

I'm not a fan of popups, but I think sometimes they are necessary. For 
example, when you want to confirm or announce something important (as 
here).

Regards,
Hossein

On 01.03.2022 17:28, Heiko Tietze wrote:
> Having a hard time to find the information in both v5.2 and 7.4. There
> is no number in the quick find bar (ctrl+F) nor the dialog (ctrl+H).
>
> If you plan to show another information similar to "Reached the end of
> the document" telling in all other cases "In total, %d places were
> found." this might be a good improvement. However, in case of only one
> occurrence you are always at the end (or the beginning) and the number
> would never be shown.
>
> On 25.02.22 18:15, Hossein Nourikhah wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please look at this commit:
> >
> > DIALOG: Improvements to the Find & Replace dialog.
> > https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/beeef9
> >
> > It has provided improvements to the "Find and Replace" dialog. On the
> > other hand, it created a regression in accessibility, because the
> > number of found/replaced items were no longer announced by the screen 
> > readers like NVDA. The problem is discussed in tdf#117173:
> >
> > Bug 117173 - Search Dialog does not provide search results to
> > Assistive Technology tools at 5.2 and later
> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117173
> >
> > In this Gerrit submission:
> >
> > tdf#117173 Add popup for # of items found/replaced
> > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/129649
> >
> > I tried to re-introduces the popup for the number of found/replaced
> > items, making the screen readers able to read the number of
> > found/replaced items. The search result label is currently kept in its
> > place, and it is updated as before.
> >
> > This behavior is similar to MSO, from the oldest versions to the
> > latest. The popup for the number of found and replaced is still
> > available in MSO 2019.
> >
> > I would like to know the idea of design people on this change.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hossein
>
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