[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Feb-02

Present: John, Heiko
Comments: Justin, Mike, Regina, Telesto, Thomas, Stuart, Mihkel, Bastian, 
Adolfo, Rizal, Kendy, Csongor

Tickets/Topics

 * Writer: Table can be moved to new page, but not back
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144121
   + page break is an attribute of the table, it was never possible (Justin)
   + special handling might be possible (Mike)
   + only straight-forward solution is to separate pb from table and
     modify/insert the paragraph before (Heiko)
   + wonder how other applications do it (John)
   => WF/NAB

 * Manage Changes sidebar in Writer no longer needs to be an experimental
   feature
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147042
   + yes (Kendy)
   => do it

 * Make clear distinction on differences between "Export" and "Save As",
   and move items in those filters accordingly
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116703
   + "save as" has formats for which import and export filter exists; "export"
      has those for which only export exists (Regina)
      + not in general true, for example PDF (Mike)
   + overview of current situation and some options in c16
     + remove Export and have everything under SaveAs (Telesto)
     + lossy formats (no import filter) under Export; option 4 (Thomas)
     + open document formats at SaveAs everything else at Export,
       option 1 (Stuart)
       + bad idea (Csongor), forcing users into a certain format hinders
         collaboration (John)
     + keep as it is, option 0 (Mihkel)
   + Understand Export as some final procedure, a file that can't be
     opened again; meaning option 4 (John)
   + Exporting means that plain Save will not work on this format but was
     used before (John)
   => do option 4 and test whether the (export) filter is used as
      the actual format for subsequent Save operations

 * Icon styles should not modify official application icons in start center
   (and other relevant places)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126074
   + only one icon (Bastian), themable icons (Adolfo, Mike, Rizal)
   + proposal for guideline in c15
   + brand identification is important; we should aim for consistency across
     the themes; current icon themes work well (John)
   => guideline is okay
 * Adopt new application icons for LibreOffice 7.0
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132398
   => MIME type icons and application icons are part of the theme,
      the main icon should be reworked

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