[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2021-Jun-03

Present: Heiko
Comments: Dieter, Telesto, johnks, Alain

Tickets/Topics

 * INDEX: Table of figures Hyperlink points to caption, should point to
   parent frame
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141651
   + depends on "Create from Captions" or "Create from Object Names" whether
     the object is in focus or the caption; expect always the target
     in view (Dieter)
     + link from ToF should behaves like link from a cross reference
   + expect different behavior since caption and object might
     be separate (Heiko)
   + change behavior of ToF to behaves like cross reference (Dieter)
     + with "Insert reference to" specification?- isn't it what
     Display offers; more options sounds like over-engineering (Heiko)
   + how about renaming? "Create From" -> "Reference to" and "Object names"
     -> "Figure"/"Table"/etc.
   => no further input, comment and remove keyword

 * Do not display "Table" toolbar by default in Impress
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142489
   + +1 (Telesto)
   + hide Drawing toolbar and show Table at this place (Heiko)
   => do it

 * UI: Table properties borders doesn't show top border if row selected
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142441
   + likely NAB for performance reasons but OTOH maybe related
     to tdf#142440 (Heiko)
   => keep ticket for dev advice

* Inconsistent use and non-antialiased graphical representation and
  of rotation wheels
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142514
  + drop the dialcontrols a) don't b) on sidebar c) everywhere
  + agree with sidebar but not dialogs (Heiko)
  => no further input, keep ticket

* The macro-UI is confusing and not intuitive to me
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141975
  + what is needed?
    + properties of the selected sheet at sidebar (johnks)
      + loosely related to the request to rework the UI (Heiko)
      + UNO object inspector might cover this (Alain)
  + aged UI; macro edition, management and execution should be separate;
    use external IDE for some languages such as Python where many
    advanced features are standard (Alain)
    + external tools wouldn't be integrated making the execution and
      debugging difficult
    + keeping a MVP is necessary so rework should consider external
      tools and update the UI conservatively (Heiko)
  => mockup needed


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