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Pedro,

you are absolute right. When you have a look at oxygen icons they were
dropped cause there was no maintainer available since years. after they
were dropped a new designer say he want to maintain.

In general a CLEAR statement why something will be dropped is better than
have something that is broken.

Am Mi., 12. Sep. 2018 um 16:00 Uhr schrieb Pedro Rosmaninho <
mota.prego@gmail.com>:

That's all very nice but... Who fixes it?
It´s nice to vote to keep something in, but when that something is
constantly breaking and there's minimal dev interest to fix or improve it
(and it needs some dire improvements) why keep it then? Would any of the
people in favor be willing to fix it and improve it? It's as simple as that.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:50 PM Halmai, Csongor <csongor@halmai.hu> wrote:

Hi All,

from my personal perspective, I don't use personas, I never did. But...

I taught hundreds of people, children and adults as well and I can say
most people like "funny little harmless" things
like this.

Just imagine how many users change their desktop background, even if they
cannot see it the whole day. They simply just
like personalize it. I think such a little thing that makes LO more
attractive for the newcomers, should be kept.

If it breaks then it should be fixed.

Csongor




On 2018.09.12. 3:44, infinitytec wrote:
I'd have to agree with the idea of removing Personas. Why? Because they
keep breaking. A couple of prebuilt solid themes would do the trick. Allow
people to make and tweak themes as well, and even add images. It could,
perhaps, still be compatible with the Persona system, but rely only on LO
to function, as I know some issues have been caused on Mozilla's end.


Any sufficiently advanced technology is magic to those who do not
understand it.-A variation on Clarke's Third Law
-------- Original message --------From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker <
jean-francois.nifenecker@laposte.net> Date: 9/11/18  12:22 PM
(GMT-06:00) To: "Роман К." <79045_79045@mail.ru>, Pedro Rosmaninho <
mota.prego@gmail.com> Cc: sbergman@redhat.com,
design@global.libreoffice.org, libreoffice-dev <
libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>, "kainz.a" <kainz.a@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Re[2]: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from
the
   design meeting 2018-Sep-05
Le 06/09/2018 à 12:32, Роман К. a écrit :
Hello, all. I agree with "killing" Firefox personas. And I like adding
just 4-5 solid color themes.

I've (manually) added the LibreOffice 4 Light Ambiance persona from
Firefox on my trainer PC
(
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/libreoffice-4-light-ambiance/?src=search
).

Adding them is a chore: you've got to use the advanced mode because, as
already stated, the UI is not working anymore for a loooong time.

After having doubts about personas (in fact I was very reluctant to
using them), I can tell that it draws attention during training
sessions ;-)

So, I'd strongly vote to keep (and fix) the personas thingy and against
having only solid themes.




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