[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Jul-04

Present: Tomaz, Stuart, Heiko

Last week(')s todo's

 * Tools > Options > Asian/CTL always active
   Jun/27
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318 
   + e.g. in tabs with Tools > Options > Language Settings > Default on top
   + remove “For the current document only”
   + drawback: displaces language settings (locale = english) and font settings (default = english)
   + how to deal with the character dialog? (Tomaz)
     + consequently we have to show all types at every time (Heiko)
     + could do that similar to fill styles (color, gradient, pattern...)
     + all types are needed in parallel so switching is bad (Tomaz)
   Jul/04 
   + flatten out "languages" needed/wanted (Stuart)
   + how to assign a default font to headings/text depending on locales
   + maybe add it to 
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu 
     or in files below https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/
     + see also tdf#112879
   + take defaults from this/these files (remove tools > options > language settings > languages: 
default languages)
   => remove also _all_ tools > options > writer > basic fonts (*) and let the user set-up defaults 
     per styles: default
   + in multi-language documents/workflows the user is supposed to create paragraph styles with 
specific langauges
     that take their default from the (non-configurable) defaults and may customize in the 
paragraph style dialog
   + when removing cjk/ctl dev should take care of spaghetti code similar to  search/kashida 
sensitive depends 
     in the past on tools > options > languages on/off ( 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116242 )

Tickets

 * Terminology in CONTENTS sidebar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118330 
   + use of module names instead of clear names, eg. Text document -> WRITER
   + promoting the modules is a good idea but not alone
   => better in brackets like "Text document (WRITER)" if there is an explicite module
     + Macro and programming  -> Macros and scripting
     + Spreadsheets -> Spreadsheets (CALC)
     + Charts and Diagrams -> Charts and Diagrams
     + Installation -> %PRODUCTNAME Installation
     + Common Help Topics -> Common Help Topics
     + Database Functionality -> Database Functionality (BASE)
     + Presentation and drawings -> Presentation and drawings (IMPRESS/DRAW)
     + Formulas -> Formulas (MATH)
     + Text Documents -> Text Documents (WRITER)
     + HTML documents -> HTML documents (WRITER WEB)
   => involve l10n for the actual labels whether or not upper case etc.
   => to think ahead we could also add this to File > New
     + Text documents (WRITER)
     ...
     + Database (BASE)

 * Calc, Conditional formatting: Drop expandable sections and show all at once
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118481 
   + introduce a user-defined string (Heiko)
   + might not be part of the ODF spec (Tomaz)
   + go with a standard tree that allow to keep nodes open including a switch to expand (or 
collapse) all nodes (Stuart)
   => do that

 * Tools > Language > For * > More...
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100856 
   + remove "More..."
   + nice shortcut (Tomaz)
   + weird relation between font/unicode -> language <- dictionary (Stuart)
     needs additional review given possible Asian/CTL rework
   => better keep it = WF


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