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Andreas, tomorrow and Friday I'll have some time so I'll provide you with
mockups to finish the really necessary work that we can do.

Since this is an UI issue, I believe that it can still be pushed on time
for 6.1, considering that feature freeze shouldn't affect some UI work,
As for the lack of devs: if we push this and users start issuing bug
reports, dev interest will also appear.

The deactivation of the toolbars should be done by someone with knowledge
to do that. Szymon Klos mentioned that he tried to do it but he didn't
manage to do it (if he's here maybe he can clear this, I'm recalling this
from memory so I might be saying something wrong).
Szymon Klos said in the Notebookbar Telegram channel that he was hoping
Ksithij Pathania would fix major issues. But I don't want to be
presumptuous to assume who will/should fix what.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:34 AM kainz.a <> wrote:

Nr. 1 and 2 can I fix as fare as I know isn't it. So can you make a mockup
Pedro and let's fix it.

Excluding that the issue is that there is no dev available to do
bugfixing. Hope the GSOC student can fix something but since now the output
isn't high.

Another question is, should we announce an feature where no dev is working
on it?


2018-05-30 12:15 GMT+02:00 Pedro Rosmaninho <>:

There's very few blocker bugs frankly.
The main ones are:
1 - Media (Audio and Video) toolbar still doesn't have a Tabbedbar and
Groupedbar eequivalent,
2 - Chart editing toolbar also doesn't have a Tabbedbar and Groupedbar
equivalent (the commands that can be added to the Object editing
Tabbedbar/Groupedbar are mentioned here
3 - After finishing those two issues, toolbars should be deactivated for
the Notebookbar so that they don't open below the Notebookbar UI -
inconsistent behaviour).

Excluding that it's just minor issues that can quickly be solved.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:02 AM kainz.a <> wrote:


Groupedbar and Tabbedbar's are ready. I already update the UI so that
can be "released". Groupedbar and Tabbedbar has a full and a compact

Groupedbar and Tabbedbar's were tested with Colibre icon theme. All
has an Icon, Icon + Label or Label only.

For switch between different User Interfaces there is a Menu button on
top right. Tabbedbar has in addition on the top left an show menubar

Contextual Groups (called Heikobar) and Contextual Single didn't get an
- Contextual Single should be removed from the build cause it's only an
design study where many stuff is missing.
- Contextual Groups need an update or should be turned off until it will
updated, cause if the menubar is turned off you can't switch the UI (you
have to delate your profile or whatever). The problem is that it's the
first in the list.

Design wise Notebookbar waiting for testers. The problem is, that there
open bugs so the developers can't move the feature out of experimental.

In a movie I would show the different idea behind tabbedbar (where your
content is grouped in tabbs) and groupedbars (where all "main" content is
always available and the rest in the drop dowm group label.

User feedback is really needed!


2018-05-30 9:41 GMT+02:00 Mike Saunders <>:


So the release of LibreOffice 6.1 is still a couple of months away, but
we in the marketing community are starting to plan the release
announcement, videos and other materials.

How is the Notebookbar looking? I assume it'll still be experimental in
6.1? I recall someone (Andreas?) saying that one of the Notebookbar
variants is getting close to completion, however, so we could mention
that in the press release / video.

Indeed, I could make a separate video showing how to try it. The two
things to bear in mind are:

1) It must be easy to revert to the "normal" layout
2) If there are many different Notebookbar variants in the experimental
mode, we need to be careful that users don't accidentally enable the
wrong one, and complain...


Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR
The Document Foundation, Kurf├╝rstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE

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