[libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting Nov/29 2017

Present: Csongor, Thomas, Jay, Stuart, Heiko

 * Change string from 'Left' to 'Default' or 'Start' or code 'Right' entry
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98211
   + Start better than left/right, Default is too unspecified (Thomas)
   + Better than "default" is start and end as Mozilla does (see also c15) (Stuart)
   + rename to start (Csongor)
   + default may be an issue (Stuart)
   + Start in CJK as well (Jay) -> yes (Stuart)
   + CJK uses default right now (Jay)
   + consistentcy across modules is important, but this simple lable change should be made without 
worrying about matcheing all at this time (Stuart)
   + Adolfo's comment c22 taken into account but for simplicity disagreed
   => do it

 * Should we change the default fonts used in Writer
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113941
   + twitter poll - https://mobile.twitter.com/liboDesign/status/932556988571181057
     + 125 votes
     + 37% - Sans (Head) Serif (Text) = WFM
     + 31% - Sans (Head) Sans (Text) = Green
     + 21% - Serif (Head) Sans (Text)
     + 11% - Serif (Head) Serif (Text)
   + But, any trouble with existing templates (Stuart), 
     + only two templates for Writer (Jay)
   + WFM 2, Green 1, undecided 2
   => WFM

 * Double click on ruler in Write: Open Indents or Tab
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113925
   + single/double click consistency (Thomas)
   + known behavior (Mike K)
   + white part (inside margins) should open "tabs"
   + gray part (outside margins) go to "border"
     + or open page dialog's border tab(Stuart)
   + clicking the thumbs go to "indentation" (Csongor)
   + double clicking drop the tab; bug? (Stuart)
   => full acceptance

 * Module specific file types at open dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79803
   + e.g. 'Spreadsheets' instead of 'All documents' in case of Calc
   + pro: Jay, Heiko, Csongor, Thomas (cross-platform issues)
   + con: Jean-Baptiste (c3,c5), Cor
   + unclear: Maxim (c10, macOS issue), Stuart
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94177
     + suggestion to have two new entries 'ODF Files' and 'Common Files'
     + people don't know what "ODF files" mean (Thomas)
   + users opening zip files or binaries in Writer is a potential security issue
   + new type "All LibreOffice files" (Csongor)
     + all libo files = every file that can be opened including png, csv, xls for example
     + adds other confusions but is a minimal improvement
   + module specific <> target specific; e.g. insert image in Writer (Stuart)
     + .uno:OpenFromWriter should show text documents, .uno:Open should show all files (Thomas)
   => 4:3 for the modificiation: Writer will list 'all documents' by default instead of 
     'all files' (including binaries), Calc shows 'all spreadsheets' etc.


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