Re: Aw: Re: Re: [libreoffice-design] Open Colour Systems Collection 2.0 released

On 01/06/2017 01:28 AM, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote:
> > I need a "real" diverse palette of colors.  Currently I have a palette
> > of about 2000 colors, I put together years ago, but do not have "good"
> > RGB colors for different brown, copper, silver, and gold, styles of
> > colors.  The ones I have are not that good.
> What you need is palettes with metallic colours and a software that can store them as spot colours, 
> because otherwise you won't be able to export any file that a digital print shop can use. 
> LibreOffice is the wrong software for this purpose. You should also be aware of the fact that 
> metallic and neon colours depend on the printing machines available in a print shop. For instance, 
> a shop using Roland equipment will only be able to reproduce Roland metallics etc.
>
> You won't find any metallics or neons in the OCSC for the reasons I mentioned.
What I am asking for as "metallic colors" are those that are colors 
closest to the "metals".  Below is a list of metal colors that I know 
of.  I would love to find more, or better looking, HEX code for all the 
"standard" metal colors.  A single color that will make background, 
"highlight", or font color, look gold, silver, copper, bronze, etc.

<draw:color draw:name="Cool Copper" draw:color="#d98719"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Copper" draw:color="#b87333"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Copper-Red" draw:color="#cb6d51"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Copper-Penny" draw:color="#ad6f69"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Copper-Rose" draw:color="#996666"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Gold" draw:color="#cd7f32"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Old Gold" draw:color="#cfb53b"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Brass" draw:color="#b5a642"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Bronze" draw:color="#8c7853"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Bronze II" draw:color="#a67d3d"/>
<draw:color draw:name="Silver"draw:color="#e6e8fa"/>

I am not looking for printing out a sign where there are places that 
actually look like being made of metal.  If I need an "object" in a 
document, I go and use a package that can use scanned in metal images.  
Inkscape or GIMP would be my first package for this. I have done this 
many times, but it is a chore creating all the "metal looking" text, 
background, etc., images and then use them in LO. Having a single color 
that looks close to the various shades of the metals is what I am 
looking for.
> > Finding good metallic colors
> > are always - for me - a pain for both LibreOffice and GIMP. I know the
> > .soc "standard" for LO, but not what GIMP uses.
> GIMP, Inkscape, MyPaint etc. are really behind when it comes to palette files, because a SOC file 
> doesn't need anything but RGB values (and licensing information). However, the other programmes I 
> mentioned are more ambitious than LibreOffice, but the GPL format is just plain RGB values. No CMYK 
> colours, no spot colours, which is a shame.
Yes, I would love some internal way to choose from a large predefined 
color palette like we have in LO.  Right now, I have to take a screen 
shot of the LO color picking dialog that has the color[s] that I want, 
then use that image withing GIMP to pick the needed color from that 
image.  I have done that many times and never like it.

IF you know of some other .deb package that does this better than GIMP 
or Inkscape, let me know.  I run Ubuntu 16.04LTS most time.  My Windows 
default package is Paint Shop Pro [a version from 2014 or 2015].  For 
some reason GIMP seems not to run properly right now on Windows 10 [Win7 
works though].

> If you need metallic colours for printing with a Roland machine, I could create a SOC file and send 
> it to you privately, but I doubt that it would be of any help. Exporting files for this kind of 
> specialised printer is  simply beyond the scope of LibreOffice.

I do not have access to any "professional" printers.  When I need better 
prints or larger formats than 13x19 inches, I go to local print shops.  
They "prefer" PDF file formated documents.  I have never needed to make 
my document into a separate file per color, which are needed for high 
volume offset printing.

> Christoph


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