[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-11-18

[the meeting on 11th was cancelled]

* Present: Cor, Heiko, Kendy, Samuel
 
* UI changes integrated the last two weeks:

    + form-related controls ta insert and tools menu (Jay)
    + hierarchical organization of slide transitions (Tor)
        + and new slide transitions (Tor, Tomaž)
    + title for image export options dialog (Jay)
    + fix accelerators in start center (Kendy)
    + loading .svg images from image resources (Tomaž)
    + "hide whitespace" improvements (Ashod)
    + new Outline button (Maxim)
        + missing an icon
    + context menu customization (Maxim)
    + new PopupLabel property for uno commands (Maxim)
    + new TooltipLabel property for uno commands (Samuel)
    + shortcut keys missing in undo and redo tooltips (Samuel)
    + tdf#34882 Adding hex and decimal code search (Steve Hart)
    + Impress: Rework the way the display modes are presented (Philippe)

* Update the meeting time (Kendy)

    + Please fill the Doodle until the next meeting (Wed 25th, November 2015):
         http://doodle.com/poll/d4b628cgxanrvmka 

* Table styles (Kendy)
 
    + would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
        + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing

    + pending publishing
        + some thing still can be discussed

* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
      
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
        + not published yet
 
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
 
    + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/
        + now set up, admins, thank you!

    + Heiko, Jay, Kendy have the credentials
        + Heiko can start writing a post
        + how to reference the author etc.? (Heiko)
            + not possible to have a named posting (Heiko)
            + best to poke the admins - awerner set this up for us (Kendy)
        + will ask for some plugins that will be useful (Heiko)
 
* Bug discussions
 
    + none this week

* NotebookBar (Samuel)

    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
        + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png
        + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
        + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
        + an optional thing for users (Samuel)
            + menus + toolbars the default
    + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

    + keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
        + mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko)
            + eg. grouping
                + possible with Notebookbar
                + eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?

    + loading the toolbars from glade (.ui) instead of .xcu files
        + this will probably remove the possibility to make the toolbars floating (Kendy)
            + but that is good (Cor, Kendy)

    + can have more sets of toolbars with this (Cor)

    + Will have  a friday session on NotebookBar topic on Fr 27th
         + Please have a look at the following links until then: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar#Resources

* Help updating (Kendy)

    + released a new release (Kendy)

    + online modification prototype (Jay)
        + Liongold on IRC working on that
        + will share that with Jay, and can iterate
        + need a VM from the infra to host the prototype
            + will create another ticket for this (Jay)
              https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1584
        + would be great to put the code to a repository (Kendy)
            + dev-tools (some subdir there) (Kendy)
            + or a new repo - eg. on github as a start? (Kendy)
                + dev-tools preferred though

    + help-related meta bugs:
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580

* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

    + icons for slide transitions needed (Kendy)

    + 32pixel sifr icons
        + first 2 from Pappamatti
        + reminded him to push svg too (Jay)
            + to use the Tomaž's code

    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
        + Integrating it into the options dialog - 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014
            + add a "extra large" entry

    + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
        + Samuel will look at one of them
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
            + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and
              put to images_tango.zip
            + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
          tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
          galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

    + Sifr & Breeze for dark themes
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632
        + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)

    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
        + trying to reach out to the Gnome guys (Jay)
            + https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162

    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing

    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
        + 32px icons completed (Andreas)
          
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/LibreOffice/32px%20support/images_breeze.zip
          goes into /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/

* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)

    + Friday session this week (Nov/27)
        + 1:00pm CEST / 12:00am UTC
        + property dialogs (Heiko / Jay)
        + notebookbar

    + List of possible future topics
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing

    + Friday session - NotebookBar
      
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pt1Psa4YDVwFOdYlLl6TXaK5LIK2uf1RKJk1UOTLsWg/edit?usp=sharing

    + glade introduction would be useful (Heiko)
        + best practices etc. (Heiko)
        + happy to do that, but cannot this week :-( (Kendy)

* User statistics

    + add a env. var for triggering this too - is that possible (Jay)
        + easy to do (Kendy)

    + store to a text file rather than standard error (Jay)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95505
        + easy to do too (Kendy)

    + additional data collection
        + add timestamp and collect each and every action as it in order to analyze the sequence 
(e.g. which function is mostly followed by undo)
        + add document info to track the workflows document based
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a2TcTztqMauFwM7DV1smhu85TdTXKxxTiSf7W3clhZc/edit

    + could be a theme for the Friday session this week

    + TDF tender?
        + currently there's not enough good concept (Heiko)
        + willing to frame it better at the Friday session (UX)




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