[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-21

* Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Tomaz, Stuart

* UI changes integrated the last week:

    + Enable auto-numbering by default reverted for now (Samuel)
    + First/last button in the Calc tab bar (Tomaž)
    + NotebookBar proof-of-concept pushed (Kendy)
    + alt-x support to math (Justin)
    + more 32px Breeze icons (Andreas)
    + Appearance -> Application Colors (Adolfo)
    + initial "Home" NotebookBar tab proof-of-concept (Samuel)
    + make sidebar toolboxs item order RTL sensitive (Bubli)

* Table styles (Kendy)
 
    + would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
        + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
        + 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy)
    + more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
        + afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)

    + what's the game plan there? (Jay)
        + ODF export first, then ODF import, then OOXML support (Kendy)
        + but cannot promise exact timeline (Kendy)

    + had the Friday session about this, useful to continue the discussion there (Jay/Heiko)
        + to define the general approach to the table propeties, style etc. - in the sidebar 
(Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
        + should we eg. remove the table toolbar (that appears when the cursor gets into a table, 
etc.)
        + where to put the table styles - to such a sidebar? to styles & formatting?
        + etc.

    + worked on the design during the meeting (Jay/Heiko)
        + reworked the dialog with an almost finished layout (for discussion with the community)

* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
      
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
        + not published yet
 
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
 
    + redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505
        + pending on infra
 
* Bug discussions
 
    + none this week

* NotebookBar (Samuel)

    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
        + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png
        + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
        + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
        + an optional thing for users (Samuel)
            + menus + toolbars the default
    + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

    + keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
        + mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko)
            + eg. grouping
                + possible with Notebookbar
                + eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?

   + tabs make toolbars context depending which is against the use case of toolbars (Heiko)
       + strucutring the toolbar with labeled groups and perhaps different sized buttons make sense
       + the tabs from the current notebookbar should stay a menubar (Heiko)

* Help updating (Kendy)
 
    + new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay)
        + will do, this time really :-) (Kendy)
 
    + help-related meta bugs:
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
    + wikihelp? (Jay)
        + help proposal
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing
            + idea to use xml editor (Kendy)
            + steps needed:
                + hooks on help.libreoffice.org redirecting to editable page
                + per-user session - own git checkout
                + some way of editing - either the xml help or the xml <-> html mapping
                + commit creation in the git + push to gerrit
            + overall - like the idea to have some infra on top of the current help,
              easier than the entire editable wiki (Kendy)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

    + Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel)
        + Fast svg import hack working (Tomaz)
 
    + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
        + Samuel will look at one of them
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
            + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and
              put to images_tango.zip
            + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
          tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
          galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

        + Icons not appearing in help viewer's web view
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82149
 
    + Sifr & breeze for dark themes
        + bug report created (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632
        + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)
            + screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119614
 
    + Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay)
        + but not enabled by default
        + images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/
           https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlTjBkSlJOY01RV3M/view?usp=sharing
        + Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay)
 
    + Asking Gnome team for help with Tango (Jay)
      https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162

    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
        + First batch of 32px icons added (Jay) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19616/
 
    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
        + 32px icons completed (Andreas)
 
    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
        + Integrating it into the options dialog - 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014
 
* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Friday session this week (Oct/16)
        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC
        + Table styles continued
 
    + List of possible future topics
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing

* Templates

    + Need code pointers to fix small template thumbnails in start center (Jay)
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89095



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