[libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-07

* Present: Adolfo, Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Lera, Steve, Stuart, Tomaž
 
* UI changes integrated the last week:

    + Added entries to links.txt (Jay)
    + Hide whitespace between pages (Ashod)
    + Move drawing and other toolbars to the top in Impress (Jay)
    + More fixes in the Remote files access (Szymon)
    + Sifr icons improvements (Matthias)
    + Changes in Unity Quickstart (Adolfo)
    + Added Galaxy icon (Jay)
    + Breeze icons updates (Andreas)
 
* Update the meeting time (Kendy)
 
    + current time inconvenient a bit, what would be the best time? (Kendy)
    + let's do a doodle (Heiko)

* QA interested in the minutes too (Jay)
 
    + can send it there, just maybe better to subscribe to the projects@ ML? (Kendy)
        + still, QA people were interested (Jay)
        + I'll try it then, and stop if I hear complains :-) (Kendy)
 
* 'industrial' icon theme - keep or remove?
 
    + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19149/
        + Human also depends on Industrial (Jay)
            + should that be actually depend on Tango? (Jay)
            + best to talk to Bjoern (Michaelsen) (Kendy)
 
* Table styles (Kendy)
 
    + would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
        + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zOsEe_cj-VnFyuPZcld4-WPjwmdsfsaHuOO8e2dfhU0/edit
        + 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy)
 
* Last week's design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
      
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + talked about the Area properties (Heiko)
         + unfortunately did not finish in time yet (Heiko)
         + more mockups there (Heiko)
    + included color widget (Heiko)
    + some ideas harder to implement (Heiko)
    + bitmap background handling not convenient (Heiko)
    + but overall the proposal nearly finished (Heiko)
        + should publish that when done (Heiko)
            + proved useful with the print dialog (Heiko)
 
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
 
    + included in the official LibreOffice blog, or better to have a design-only one? (Heiko)
    + TDF-infra OK with the idea of design.libreoffice.org (Jay)
        + sounds good (Kendy)
        + initially ~3 people + inclusive for others (Jay)
    + conclusion: Jay will talk to the tdf infra guys to set that up
 
* Bug discussions
 
    + nothing this week
 
* Help updating (Kendy)
 
    + new release 3.1.3 on Monday (Kendy)
        + but more fixes in the meantime again :-) (Jay)
    + help-related meta bugs:
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
    + wikihelp? (Jay)
        + help proposal
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing
            + idea to use xml editor (Kendy)
            + steps needed:
                + hooks on help.libreoffice.org redirecting to editable page
                + per-user session - own git checkout
                + some way of editing - either the xml help or the xml <-> html mapping
                + commit creation in the git + push to gerrit
            + overall - like the idea to have some infra on top of the current help,
              easier than the entire editable wiki (Kendy)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 
    + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
 
    + Sifr & breeze for dark themes
        + bug report created (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632

        + Tomaž has an algorithm to create them (Tomaž)
            + re-colors Breeze & Sifr automatically (Tomaž)
            + will push to master soon (Tomaž)
 
    + Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay)
        + but not enabled by default
        + images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/
           https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlTjBkSlJOY01RV3M/view?usp=sharing
        + Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay)
 
    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
          
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
 
    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
 
* START CENTER: Set new open remote file icon (Jay)
 
    + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/19178
        + a comment there: "maybe the Open Remote button should be merged with the Open button,
          make it a split button"?
        + this is actually orthogonal to the icon (Kendy)
            + let's merge the icon if people happy with the look (Kendy)
            + it should be pushed (Stuart)
        + the split button was considered during the original design of the feature, but decided to
          have a separate button to make the feature more visible (Jay/Kendy)
    + should the button change from "Open Remote File" to "Remote Files"? (Heiko)
        + Agree (Stuart, Adolfo, Jay, Tomaz)
 
* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
    + Friday session this week (Oct/09)
        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC
        + Table styles
 
    + List of possible future topics
        + 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing




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