* Present: David, Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias
+ David for the first time - welcome! :-)
* Completed Action Items:
+ Not using google docs for the design discussions
[turned out to be a misunderstanding - OK with that for now]
* Pending Action Items:
+ Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001
+ Stuart: Change the default to single page
+ Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view"
[https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to
gerrit]
AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted.
+ Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar'
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648
+ Jay: Send a mail to documentation@global.libreoffice.org with the wiki page that collects
changes in menus
+ Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's
profile
+ Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
+ Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
+ Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
+ Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
+ Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after
discussion on 20150128)
+ the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
+ Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794
+ check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Auto/No Fill now has a button (Adolfo)
+ new breeze icons integrated (Andreas Kainz/Jay)
+ many icons optimized (Andrew Dent)
* Icon Updates / Issues
+ Sifr
+ Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
+ http://arsenalrace.at/analytics/ak/libreoffice/
+ Andreas will push to gerrit
+ pushed the changes sent via mail (Kendy)Kainz
+ looked like there were only few new icons - some got lost somewhere? (Kendy)
+ will ping Andreas (Heiko)
+ Breeze pushed today - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/14891/ (Jay)
+ conflict with Kendy's pushing :-) - fixed the links.txt (Kendy)
+ Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for hidpi
* Table of Contents (Heiko/Jay)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89608
+ updated the design session document, finalized
+ one button less in the UI, will update the latest mockup
+ topic closed
* CMIS / online documents mockup (Heiko/Jay)
+ follow-up concerns
+ changing size of the dialog (Bjoern B.)
+ there are 2 good solutions; will be decided what's best (Heiko)
+ will publish with proposals for the solution of the concerns (Heiko)
+ can include more people this way indeed (Kendy)
AI + will publish the blogpost (Heiko)
* Friday's design session (Jay/Kendy)
+ 1pm UTC
+ this week's theme: Insert Special Character split/group button and dialog
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PxkIpkzgWF1cX9oQmBhjiTBhUXvUEqbz06Bn4hzbF54/edit?usp=sharing
* Finished proposals
+ Change tracking sidebar proposal
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87695
+ CMIS / Online repositories
+ do we have a central place for collecting the finished ones?
+ Design Session Folder -
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6qJrVIa0SAlcFV0Q2lWMmdUcW8&usp=sharing
+ something that we can links from
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CoreHacks
+ CoreHacks - something like EasyHacks for the more advanced tasks (that need some
mentoring)
+ the bug number in the bugzilla should be the entry point (Heiko)
+ to avoid confusion what is the 'ultimate' source
+ consensus: sounds good
* Uncluttering Impress default view and stop toolbars from poping up and hiding (Jay)
+ Disable object, image and text toolbars - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676
+ Move view tabs to left slide sidebar - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87672
+ Jay will create the mockups
+ Add media playback features to sidebar, so its toolbar can be disabled -
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794
+ Kendy needs to check implementation of the sliders
+ Slightly reduce the default sizes of the right and left sidebars
+ Do not hide slide pane in handout and slide sorter views
+ showing makes no sense with handout and sorter ? (Cor)
+ no real blockers to go ahead
* Uncluttering the Draw default view (Jay)
+ What an uncluttered Draw could look like - http://i.imgur.com/M1k9DHT.png
+ some additional buttons might still be reduced (Jay)
+ showed it to youtube Draw tutorial maker and he thought it was good -
https://twitter.com/MichaelTFCG/status/564859639347818496
+ idea is to make it more like the usual drawing applications
+ remove the pages previews on the left
+ just one toolbar row - to get more vertical space
+ sounds good to me (Kendy)
+ will go through the usage stats to see what can be further tweaked
+ biggest problem: need to convert the list of pages to a sidebar item
+ so that it is still possible to see the pages
AI + let's create a CoreHack for that (Kendy)
+ part of the GSoC in the worst case
* Last week's discussions that need a resolution:
+ "Update style" in style context menu in styles and formatting
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89824
+ non-controversial, could become EasyHack
+ Make it possible to copy style options to another style
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89827
+ Jay filed a similar bug - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85131
+ a picture would help in this bug report (Kendy)
+ Updating character style to match selection does not remove local formatting
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89829
+ inconsistency (Mattias)
+ needs a document showing the behavior (Kendy)
+ Style overrides could have a way to unset local changes (restore default?)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89826
+ not sure how to visualize that (Mattias)
+ eg. some kind of [x] next to them that would remove that (Jay)
* Code pointer needed
+ is the sidebar state saved in some .xcu? (Jay)
+ sould be, if you have problems finding that, poke me please (Kendy)
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