* Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Stuart
* Completed Action Items:
+ Kendy: Show the horizontal ruler (but only that) in Writer again
[done, integrated in time for 4.4.0]
+ Kendy: Talk to Moggi wrt. Context menu entry to edit Conditional
Formatting
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87357
[Moggi very busy recently, no UI changes really possible there in
reasonable future :-(]
+ Jay: Ask what is the plan with the templates on the new Extensions
site
[Andreas mailed design@ ML, Jay will respond.]
+ right-clik on the ruler => the check should be radio-button like.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88417
[Fixed by Caolan]
* Pending Action Items:
+ Jay: Update screenshots on www.libreoffice.org
[has a couple of them, will send to the marketing-priv ML]
+ Default document view for Writer, single page rather than
automatic
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001
+ Stuart: Change the default to single page
+ Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or
"Multiple page view"
[https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would
be great to get that to gerrit]
+ Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and
Grammar'
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648
+ Jay: Send a mail to documentation@global.libreoffice.org with the
wiki page that collects changes in menus
+ Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental,
somewhere in the user's profile
+ Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
+ Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
+ Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
+ Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as
a special window
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Hi-DPI changes in the ruler (dbeurle)
+ .ui files improvements - remove misused frames (Adolfo)
+ Show the horizontal ruler (but only that) in Writer again (Kendy)
+ New sifr icons (Matthias)
+ Radio buttons for ruler settings dropdown (Caolán)
* Last week's discussions that need a resolution:
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/13196/
+ just needs fixes to apply again (Kendy)
+ described how to do that...
* Discussions that need a resolution - resolved items
+ Clipboard tools, always expose to context menu or hide when no
active content? (Jay, Adolfo)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86850
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84177
+ other applications disable such stuff, instead of hiding (Jay)
+ toolbar & menubars in LO - disable stuff (Jay)
+ similar in the control context menus (e.g. 'Line (Jay)
+ hard for the user to find out about functionality (Kendy)
+ ultimate answer should be in the HIG's :-) (Kendy)
+ KDE HIG's agree with disabling, not hiding (Heiko)
https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/ContextMenu
"Disable menu items that don't apply to the current
context, instead of removing them."
+ Gnome HIG's - ???
+ Document preview in open dialog (Jay)
Adolfo suggest this be a GSoC
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87748
+ good idea for a GSoC task (Kendy)
+ need to double-check the technical feasibility (Kendy)
+ further discussion above in the GSoC section above
+ Better term for "soft hyphens"?
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/560
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_hyphen (Kendy)
+ 'Optional hyphen' in wikipedia redirects to 'Soft hyphen'
+ so seems well defined to me, and better for a native
speaker to decide... (Kendy)
+ on Google: 100k hits for "Soft Hyphen", and 17k for "Optional
Hyphen"
+ OTOH seems that Optional Hyphen might be better understandable
for non-native speakers (Heiko)
+ German translation is meaningless (Heiko)
+ translators could/should use the correct term in the specific
language (Jay)
+ and Soft Hyphen sounds good to native speaker
+ conclusion: Let's keep 'soft hyphen'
+ ideal would be to add the wikipedia link as a comment
where the term appears, but no idea if that's possible
+ Disable object, image, and character toolbars in Impress (Jay, Cor)
To simply the interface by having just one toolbar above and below
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676
+ Impress & Draw only (Jay)
+ Impress uses the sidebar much more (and it was traditionally
so too) (Jay)
+ is it mostly to disable the toolbar, or is more work needed? (Kendy)
+ only about the change of the default (Jay)
+ unfortunately we would lose the possibility to change the
style first, and then draw (Kendy)
+ like, now it is possible to choose the color, and draw
several rectangles with that color etc. (Kendy)
+ this is not possible from the sidebar (Kendy)
* Terribly outdated screenshots on www.libreoffice.org (Jay/Kendy)
+ Jay has them, will send to marketing-priv (Jay)
* Icon Updates / Issues
+ Tango_testing should be removed from 4.4 (Jay)
+ should be master-only (Jay)
+ sounds good (Kendy)
+ actually according to what I see in configure.ac, it is
not in the release builds (Kendy)
+ Hicontrast should be 'High Contrast' (Jay)
+ according to cui/uiconfig/ui/optviewpage.ui, it should be 2
words (Kendy)
+ maybe some bug? (Kendy)
+ worth testing with the release build (Kendy)
+ indeed, looks like a bug, wrong in 4.3 (Jay)
+ Sifr
+ Breeze (Jay)
+ https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123517
+ Wiki with list of icons to design (Riddell)
https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze
+ custom LO icons
https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze
* Customization Proposal (Heiko)
+
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13fPolgF_RyvCYXLIoVaTHkL2ZnaUJkNpIykTWYrDMEY/edit?usp=sharing
+ how to involve the users now in the most effective way? (Heiko)
+ survey? What feedback what do we need / want? (Heiko)
+ will publish that on planet.documentfoundation (Heiko)
+ go for that :-) (Kendy)
* UX advise bugs in bugzilla (Stuart)
+ lots of good stuff there, we should start digesting that (Stuart)
+ will introduce a similar section to 'discussions that need
resolution' (Kendy)
+ for things that actually need more people to look at (Kendy)
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