Re: [libreoffice-design] Design list and UX-Design list purposes

Hi Marc,

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com> wrote:

> This is a note to all of the regular contributors to this list.
>
> I was wondering if we could just do a quick defining of the "Design" list
> and its purposes. The reason I ask this is that I find that often people
> will post more UX related questions that would be better debated on that
> list.
>
> I see the "Design" list as really being a list where LibreOfice design
> members are asked questions or asked to help out with designing icons, logo
> design, VI requests, designing of any parts of the LibreOffice suite
> elements ... essentially all that pertains to designing objects using a
> paint/vector programme. This would also include discussions re: needs of
> the marketing people.
>
> The UX-design list, I see more a list where the discussion of extending or
> modifying the actual look and feel of LibreOffice and not the actual
> re-drawing or drawing of new elements using a paintingg/vector programme.
> The list is more concerned with discussions and examples of these new
> modification to the programme which would lead to some coding changes.
>
> I am not sure if I have described the differences in these two lists
> enough for people to understand ... feel free to add your interpretation.
>
> If we could ask people to respect these two differences, then we would
> then have a clear difference of the type of work expected on these lists
> and perhaps we could then advertise the fact that on the design list we are
> really looking for people who are merely interested in the drawing aspect
> of design and not that of the true "design" aspect of the distro. We may
> then be able to be more focused on our contributions on these two lists?
>
> I find that we sometimes are in the middle of getting some good
> contribution done on this list when another post arrives and distracts
> enough to lessen the previous contribution and leads to less focus of the
> items.
>
> I don't know about the other UX-designers, but it looks like the
> UX-members need to constantly watch the "design" list as well as the "UX"
> list just in case any UX questions are asked on the design list. We (on the
> design list) could do more moderation and ask that any posting of
> UX-related items should be re-posted on the correct UX list rather than
> allow it to be taken up on the design list. And, the UX members could do
> the same thing on the UX list.
>
> Would this sound reasonable to the UX team and the design team?

So far, the design list has been used for discussions among the design team
members, whereas the ux-advise list has been used as a communication hub
between devs and designers, intended as a way for devs to ask UX advice
(hence the "-advise" part). That's also been the official definiton of the
two lists:
* design list: "Discussions list of the LibreOffice Design Team, covering
user experience design and visual identity design." [1]
* ux-advise list: "Meeting ground for hackers and UX experts - get advise
here for user experience questions" [2]

I've been quite happy with the way it's worked so far. It's true that
designers who are interested in more than graphic design should follow two
lists, but I don't see that as a huge issue.

[1] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise

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