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Hi ape, Christoph,

On 1 March 2012 19:40, Christoph Noack <> wrote:
A.1 I agree, but the "Chart" had a green frame in the

Also targets A.2, A.3.

The basic decision we've made was to only highlight the most essential
document types and that led to only few colored application icons. The
main goal is to avoid too much mixture of color (frame) and additional
icons (the small graphic inside). A sub-goal is to establish the native
TDF / LibreOffice symbol - for many people TDF and LibreOffice are still
inexistent or very new ;-)

Consequently, we do only serve 5 icons with colored frames to our users.

For all other document types, icons with black borders are used. For
example, also the HTML document icon features a black border - although
it is opened in Writer. We also use a black border for the Master
Document - because it "only" embeds other ODT documents (and due to the
black border, Master Document icons and Writer Document icons can be
easily distinguished when using very small icons sizes).

Concerning the differentiation between document icon and application
icon - there is none, because we estimated that it doesn't add any
value. People start the application in a Start or Applications menu (no
document icons to be seen here) and they mainly use documents when they
browse documents (no applications to be started here). So we help users
to get a straight connection if we avoid any differences ...

Finally, personally I think these assumptions are still valid. But if
the goals changed or the team comes to a different conclusion, then its
surely time to update the icons.

A.3 I'll be back to the provost embodiment, it is easy to do.

A.4 I think you're wrong. Two files (ODT and DOC, ODG and VSD, ODS and XLS
etc) have the same name. They will be denoted by the same symbol. You can
not define the eyes, "who is who," if Windows Explorer is turned off "Hide
extensions for known file types" (see attachment). LibreOffice uses in its
"Explorer" different *.png ( to ODF\MSO files and do not have
this problem.

First, most users shouldn't see our custom file picker at all. For
good reason – it's a copycat of the Windows 95 file picker.
In the custom file picker, we indeed use different icons, for
instance, in Tango we have the following (these are examples):
* .od*/.ot* – the LibO icons
* .xls/.doc/.ppt – generic Tango spreadsheet/text document/presentation icons
* .txt – Oracle's colourless standard ODT icon
... since we probably don't want to use generic Tango icons in Windows
Explorer, to me it sounds like a better to try to unify the icons in
the Tango theme (to use the normal LibreOffice icons). Should I do

Hehe, concerning the last statement, then its a bug ;-)

A bug in Windows' default options or a bug in LibreOffice? (And
indepently of this: should we still try to fix it?)

Seriously, nobody had the time to provide numerous icons for the same
document type ... it might not only happen to MS Word files, but all
other Text related documents LibreOffice is able to handle (Works, Word
Pro, WordPerfect, ...). The main alternatives are:
     * use the same icon for LibreOffice and foreign (equivalent)
       document types
     * use one icon for LibreOffice and a different icon for all
       foreign (equivalent) document types
     * use individual icons for all document types

The cheapest way to do that is probably to add file extensions to the
icons. I don't know if we want that.

B. Windows_NT-6.x Explorer reduces itself on the desktop icon 256*256 to a
size 96*96, if you are using the classic (windows) theme. Icons 256*256
applications LibreOffice blurred (see attachment). This led me to modify
these figures.

So, if I get it right, we need 96x96 icons, right?

The question with that still is, if Vista/7 will accept the extra icon, I guess.


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