Thanks for an interesting and informative reply.
I believe, with your script, you'd best go to the developer list at
 which is always quite enthusiastic about patches etc. As far as I
know there is quite some interest in automatic PDF conversion.
OK, that certainly encourages me.
Also, maybe take a look at ODF-Toolkit  (now also at Apache) which
is designed to (AFAICS) to manipulate ODF programmatically.
Great. I wasn't sure whether I was heading down a dead-end alley.
Right... the problem is that LibO is a very complicated network of
must be loaded to do anything productive.
I'd figured that this was probably the case. Given that you respond well
to odd suggestions, I'd like to say a few words here that will surely get
a hostile reception in most quarters. I'd better warn you that I'm a
retired hardware engineer and a reluctant convert to coding - a.k.a a
grumpy old man. When young, my generation faced a much brighter prospect -
a broad, unexplored field with no roads, no maps, and only a few tracks
leading to uncertain destinations - freedom and exploration beckoned
excitingly. Today's young developers face a crowded highway heading in a
direction that many (myself included) do not like, and enclosed between
walls to hide the open prospect. Turn-offs are few, and discouraged.
The comprehensive, mature code-base that is OO/LO is certainly a valuable
inheritance, but defines and largely delimits the creative possibilities
open to younger would-be explorers. It's always more exciting to devise
and develop something brand new than to maintain and refine an established
product. One result is that new versions now tend to be less useful or
appealing than earlier versions, being the result of a need for novelty
rather than a response to requirements.
I believe that there is a way forward through this sticking-point, but it
requires a fair bit of preliminary tedium. I've long suspected that most
of the big apps and OS components are now such an impenetrable maze of
dependencies and undocumented code that maintenance is a chore, and
further development increasingly difficult. To go back over these acres of
code, reorganizing and rewriting them where necessary, is obviously an
unexciting prospect, but it may be the best way to reveal new
possibilities. One of the confident criticisms leveled at the Open Source
movement back in the 80s and 90s was that, without financial incentive, no
sane person would devote the time needed to create an OS and major apps
from scratch. I entertained such doubts myself, and was both amazed and
delighted at what had been achieved by the turn of the century. It is, in
fact, one of the greatest of modern social achievements, but gets no
official recognition - much less praise - since it completely refutes the
corporate rationale and philosophy.
Self-praise is always ugly to behold, but the Open Source movement
certainly deserves far more recognition than it gets, especially by way of
educating young people about its achievements and future potential. I
believe that it is time for all Open Source developers to "take a break",
to sit back and reflect on what they've achieved and inherited, and
consider some alternative routes into the future, rather than being
increasingly driven by corporate competition down corporate highways. If
it's not too abstract a suggestion, I believe that Open Source needs to
expand laterally rather than vertically. OO/LO is just one case in point;
I'm still using KDE 3.5 because 4.5 is a glitzy dog of a desktop that is
much less usable and intuitive than its predecessor, and there are many
others who share this opinion. End of rant.
There are some ideas how to present LibO on e.g. Android , yet of
certainly highly welcome.
I'm very much a Philistine when it comes to the whole mobile thing, mainly
because I believe it's being driven almost solely by corporate interests
and wrong-headed social philosophy, so for the moment I've little to offer
in this regard, and almost no experience of it.
PS: Sorry for the long list of references, but there were many points
you wanted to discuss. :)
Not at all - much appreciate the time and detail.
All the best
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