Re: [libreoffice-design] Complete redesign of the interface!

Yes there will be more icons than text , perhaps in addition to or below
some larger icons as text, every option had the icon.. A little is
confusing, here, there, I think many do not know where the stuff. Instead
there's one place where you put all of this. I just think that it is
necessary to design a new system to put all  tools to be at your fingertips.
I see no reason why a lot of things as they are now, as the main green ,
obviously someone dictate everything and can not be changed? and the
triangle on the logo which is I guess  the edge of the paper?? it's all so
meaningless without ideas, but it is all good for you, and now , if I made
​​a new logo and set up here, everyone would say, the old one is extra, you
have no brain, first it will say who all made​​, then the problem is you who
decide on all this.

On 25 June 2011 08:22, Christopher Lee <gunboatdebater@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd have to disagree with this one.  Let's take the standard toolbars
> shipping with LibreOffice.  By default, the current setup has (to the best
> of my memory) the Standard, Formatting, Find, and Navigation toolbars set
> to
> display, in addition to the ruler, status bar, and so on.
>
> The Standard toolbar contains a number of functions related to file
> operations: new, open, save, print, and so on.  Also attached (again,
> correct me if I'm wrong) are undo/redo buttons.  While I don't have a usage
> trial to show the data, I'm willing to bet that only four buttons are used
> at all on this toolbar: that is, the first four.  Few people ever use these
> buttons, which have largely been supplanted by their shortcut counterparts.
>  Even fewer use undo/redo.
>
> Nevertheless, some people still use those buttons, hence why I provided for
> a quick access set (similar to what Office 2007/2010 offer in the title bar
> at the upper left).  But the other toolbars aren't as well used-- the Find
> and Navigation toolbars have functions that don't appear to be common in
> many workflows.
>
> You are right, not every program needs to be stripped down as far as
> Chrome.
>  On the other hand, I still contend that the fraction of the interface used
> with any frequency is rather small compared to what's been built into many
> previous mockups, and in that case hiding those options by default is
> justified.
>
> I didn't make that mockup minimal for the sake of being minimal: I don't
> think autohide is particularly useful when used just for the sake of a
> clean
> interface (if you've tried the Phoenix Wright port to the iPod/iPhone,
> that's a train wreck of an interface with functions hidden for no reason at
> all).  However, the community response to the Wingpanel from the Elementary
> Project (before it became similar to GNOME panel) was extremely positive--
> and this is for an integral element of the user interface that was widely
> used for power work!
>
> I think that the Wingpanel's attractiveness stemmed from doing what it
> needed to do without killing your ability to get to more advanced options.
>  And while I like Ribbon designs, having to open tabs every time I want to
> access something isn't productive.  Hence a wingpanel-esque solution--
> which
> actually preserves our common functionality like aligning, font style, and
> so on, without being visually cluttering.
>
> Also: multiple toolbars isn't necessarily a bad thing, but since we seem to
> be using more icons than text, consider the difficulties associated with
> hitting an icon among dozens of its companions.  It's not an easy task with
> everything aligned on the top, as is-- and I don't see how splitting the
> icons along two active edges makes things better.
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Sean White <runicpaladin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This look would suit a web app BUT not a fully featured office suite.
>  Not
> > every program has to cut out as much interface as Google Chrome does,
> > especially when there are hundreds of functions that need to be accessed.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Lee
> > <gunboatdebater@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Please bear with me if this isn't how we post to this mailing list--
> I'll
> > > admit it's my first time contributing.
> > >
> > > Recently, I was looking at two mockups posted to OMGUbuntu and WebUpd8
> > > regarding LibreOffice's design.  One was for a Ribbon style, the other
> > for
> > > a
> > > sidebar design.
> > >
> > > Personally, I couldn't get behind the sidebar design.  When I used
> > KOffice,
> > > I found it was eating up a lot of screen real-estate, and especially by
> > > splitting half the UI elements between the sidebar and the top bar,
> > negated
> > > many advantages of Fitt's Law by requiring I track multiple active
> zones.
> > > I cobbled together a very basic mockup of a streamlined interface using
> > the
> > > web demo of Balsamic-- I don't have resources to go much further.  But
> if
> > > it's actually interesting to anyone, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Link below:
> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1dv3FTikP46Qr8NpnJ4ukGLT15Ajgv--rf4sEWH9oilY/edit?hl=en_US
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