Re: [libreoffice-design] Located in Venezuela logo

Hi all,
On 14/04/2011 07:17, Daniel Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi Bernhard, all
>
> Forgive my delay in responding thought I was following this list but I
> think it was right

Sorry as well to jump so late, too much in my mind actually.
> On 04/13/2011 09:19 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> > Hi Daniel, all,
> >
> > sorry for stepping in so late - sometimes "real life" is
> > more important than LibreOffice...
> >
> > I crossposted this mail to the marketing list, because I think this is
> > a topic with some importance over there.
> >
> > Please follow up on marketing@libreoffice.org.
> >
> > Daniel Gonzalez wrote:
> > > On 04/10/2011 03:45 PM, Helio S. Ferreira wrote:
> > > > Hi Daniel,
> > > >
> > > > wat do you need? Maybe can help you.
> >
> > Thanks Helio for replying and showing our interest!
> >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Daniel Gonzalez
> > > > <gonzalezdr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I wanted to know how I can help with a logo located to the user
> > > > > group LibreOffice in Venezuela,
> > > > >
> > > > > [...]
> > > Thanks for answering, I need a logo approved by the members of the
> > > design team for the community LibreOffice LibreOffice in Venezuela,
> > > so I like that this was located in my country.
> >
> > This topic is related to team interaction and marketing, even if it
> > looks pretty simple at the first sight.
> >
> > While crossposting to marketing I'll inform projects@LibO as another
> > relevant mailing list about our thread.
> >
> > Traditionally our community is organized on language rather than on
> > countries.

yes
> > Therefore the Spanish language team is designed to work together on
> > language related issues, user support, documentation and so on,
> > because most resources can be shared.

yes
> > The only area, where this language based approach is limited, is
> > Marketing:
> >
> > Here local activities are important: Physical presence on fairs and
> > conferences, personal contact to journalists, business people and
> > administration decision makers can't be reached by community members
> > from other parts of the world.

exactly, and Spanish speaking community being very large, it's the 
language for which it's the most relevant to have dedicated local groups 
able to work, meet and share together.
> > Back to dedicated logos for different teams:
> >
> > It is very reasonable to design a common logo theme consisting of the
> > LibreOffice logo in combination with a graphical (or textual)
> > representation of the dedicated team.
> >
> > But as mentioned above, I don't know if the team you want to create a
> > logo for shares most of it's interests with the other Spanish teams -
> > in this case I'd like to see you share a common logo strengthening the
> > language based character of the LibreOffice community.
> >
> > If you need a logo to represent the local marketing activities in
> > Venezuela, I'm fine with it.
> This is what we are looking for, you can even review an example of what
> we mean
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/back69/
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material/es
> > Do you know about marketing activities in other areas of Spanish
> > speaking Middle- and South America?
> At this point we are making great efforts to integrate Spanish speaking
> community including Spain and all Latin American countries
> http://es.libreoffice.org In it there are resources like mailing lists,
> irc channel # libreoffice-is, Group Facebook, Twitter, Identi.ca and
> others.

yes, and thanks a lot for your great work on that, I hope your efforts 
will bring a lot of members in.

> > Can yo collaborate and use your material interactively? Should we
> > think of a Central American LibreOffice Marketing Logo?
> The material we're using for the Hispanic community is a material
> located at a neutral Spanish so that everyone can grasp the essence of
> the message sent. Has not been raised to have a logo for the region, but
> if an opportunity arises in having a logo located to identify the local
> user groups in each country for local marketing purposes, attendance at
> events, material such as shirts, hats, posters between others. This is
> also required to write letters of sponsorship, organizing events, among
> other things, because otherwise businesses and people would think that
> this is a transnational corporation that sought to profit in any way
> > > When I speak of localized concerns me putting the flag of Venezuela
> > > or any particular icon of my country, can be an icon of a typical
> > > meal or some typical musical instrument of Venezuela, clear that
> > > these ideas should be approved by team members.
> >
> > I hope I understood your points and described well enough, why it is
> > not "just" creating a Venezuela logo, but one of the central topics of
> > the international and interlingual approach of LibreOffice.
> >
> > If you are uncertain about one of my thoughts, please ask for
> > explanation. If you disagree, just tell me. And if you can reply to
> > some of my questions above, it would be great to get some replies.
> >
> > My single concern is that our power could become split in small and
> > micro teams when we don't combine our efforts wherever possible.

I think it's ok to have dedicated local marketing material. The other 
teams have also local association where they create and sometime sell 
material rebranded with local visual signs.
As long as the overall concept of the project is understood, this is our 
general workflow is based on language with no distinction of other 
concerns, I don't see any issue in having dedicated country specific 
marketing material.
This should not hinder the fact however that a more general marketing 
material dedicated to the language and made available to all should be 
prepared too, sharing resources here is important.

Kind regards
Sophie

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