RE: [libreoffice-design] Canonical reflexion about 'Quit' menu

While this is a good discussion to have, this should not be a priority. Of all the issues we have 
to discuss, the benefits of nailing this down and implementing it doesn’t outweigh the time to 
perform UX testing to see if it was a success; this is especially true when looking at topics like 
LibO's UI, icon issues, Default settings, and so on.

IDK... my thoughts...

-Daniel Merker 

-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Noack [mailto:christoph@dogmatux.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:52 PM
To: design@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Canonical reflexion about 'Quit' menu

Hi Michel,

thanks for the hint ... and although this should (sooner or later) take place on a Ubuntu 
discussion list, here are some thoughts based on earlier discussions concerning the StartCenter 
(during OOo times).

Am Dienstag, den 29.03.2011, 15:26 +0200 schrieb Michel RENON:
> Hi,
>
> Have you seen that blog entry ?
> http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/
>
> It's very interesting and they talk about LibreOffice.
> Well, it's about a problem with LibreOffice's "Quit" menu...

Things I really like about this article is to ask fundamental questions ... although there are 
examples that things went wrong on some of the systems mentioned. For example, the Android system 
tries to care about system resources in a way, that "Quit" isn't required. But reality shows, that 
people install task managers (Google added one in the
meantime) to get rid of "bad" programs.

Concerning LibreOffice, the analysis isn't complete. Two things to add:
      * The "Start Module" is required on MacOS X to select the
        application to start (StartCenter). There, we lack the dedicated
        application starter icons we have on Windows or on Linux - this
        conforms to the Mac platform requirements.
      * The behavior of the "Start Module" can be set to close
        LibreOffice if the last document has been closed. Thus, no need
        for an explicit "Quit" - although the menu item is still there.
        Spec at [1].

Well, the open issues can be solved - of course (maybe requiring some additional effort to respect 
some platform specific behavior). But, this issue is currently of rather low importance to me. 
Other thoughts?

Cheers,
Christoph

[1] http://specs.openoffice.org/appwide/start_module/StartModule.sxw


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