[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Icons

Hi Kendy, all,

Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> Hi Berhard,
>
> On 2011-02-11 at 00:31 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
>
> > > but still didn't understand what's going on about tango.
> > > will this palette be replaced by the tango palette?
> >
> > I still don't really know what Jan (Kendy) wanted you to do on the icons.
> >
> > [...]
>
> I am sorry I did not explain that better; in LibreOffice, you can have
> more icon sets, and you, as a user, are able to switch from one to the
> other. 

That's the missing part I didn't understand when reading your mail:

You don't refer to the MimeType icons, but to the toolbar icons inside 
LibreOffice!

>  When you switch to the Tango set, it looks like the following:
>
> http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/tango/new-icons.png
Thank you very much for this screenshot!

> As you can see, the Libre icons are more saturated than the Tango ones.
> It would be great when the user switches to Tango, to have the
> LibreOffice icons more fit the entire theme, ie. use the Tango palette
> in that version.  For that, we would need separate copies of the icons
> that are using the other palette; but from that palette, of course
> colors that are closest to the original ones.

I did know that the document icons are visible in the menu - but I didn't 
think about them as part of the toolbar icon set. :-(

For these icons an adaption to the Tango style might be reasonable - but
in my eyes the Tango palette is the lesser part of the general appearance.

Much more important is the surface structure, light and shading (position 
as well as sharpness). 

And this might be hard to create in the small size you need (16x16, 22x22, 
32x32 I assume), especially as we need to keep the general appearance 
very close to the MimeType icons on the users's desktop and propably in 
the Start center.

But it's a challenge - so just let's try.

> The second problem is that the big version of the icons is 26x26; and
> Tango theme is 24x24, and not even using the entire area.  The result is
> that it looks as if the icon on the upper left hand side was much bigger
> than the rest of the icons in the toolbar.

I don't know if the toolbar icons are stored in the "right" sizes or recreated on
the fly. In any case we should add the lacking size.
But they should be consistent through with the icons of the selected 
icon set as well as with our general branding gidlelines.
> > We want to share our main graphical elements - our visual identity among 
> > all the platforms where LibreOffice runs, so it is not our goal to have 
> > different iconsets for Windows, Linux and Mac.
>
> I think that the icons are very nice, and visually distinctive in
> themselves (shape, content), so it is not necessary to be 100% strict in
> the colors they use.  If you changed the palette to Tango, using the
> most similar colors possible, it would be a big difference for the
> consistent look, and it wouldn't hurt the visual identity at all.

AS mentioned above, changing just the colors, leaving light source, shadows,
and surface structure as it is, I don't think this will lead to a much more
consistent look (just my personal opinion, no proof of being right at all).

Best regards

Bernhard




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