Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] IAccessible2 / LibreOffice / OpenOffice.org

Hi,

OK  I maybe mislead you  sorry.

I only spoke with ooo guys and I just made the assumption that IBM were 
dragging there feet.  this code has been around for a while I have 
e-mail from the devs of nvda from about 2 years ago saying the code 
would be going into oo. but they were skeptical about it ever happening!

I think it's a shame that I can't use an open source solution that just 
works out of the box,  I do Have IBM sinfony but I don't really like it.

I do like your program and oo as well,  but they really need so much 
hacking about to get them working I have to install the office program, 
 then install access bridge then I have to run a registry hack that 
switches the accessibility features on.  then I have to re boot my 
computer and if I am lucky it might work this is on a 32 bit system 
window's7 ultimate,  I would not know where to start to get the dreaded 
access bridge working on a 64 bit OS.

I know it is harder to get it working on 64 bit operating systems.  I 
wonder if some of the developers of libri office have ever spoke with 
any of the developers of nvda or vice versa?  I sound like I am having a 
go,  I am not well maybe just a tiny bit Lol.

I would be very happy if ia2 was to be implemented as this would get rid 
of all the hacking about to get it working.  I can do this but a 
beginner would just want to download the program and install it and be 
able do do there work at home or collage OK enough for now thanks for 
reading, and sorry i didn't mean to mislead you.

On 09/09/2011 03:46, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I haven't looked into this issue as much as others, but what's left here
> for IBM to do? It sounds like they've already donated the code. BTW, who
> in IBM did you contact? I used to know some of the guys working on
> accessibility inside IBM.
>
> On 08/09/11 12:25, Kevin Cussick wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > All read and understood.
> >
> > Thanks for your explanation,  I have to say it seems that oo and IBM are
> > dragging there feet with this one.
> >
> > I have been in touch with malt Timmerman over the last year or so but I
> > have not really gotten anywhere.
> >
> > I hope you will keep us vi users informed if you hear of ia2 support
> > being added into the code.
> >
> > The reason that accessibility is not switched on by default in oo is
> > that it does take a bit longer because the program has to shake hands
> > with access bridge and window's.
> >
> > I am not a programer but I would like to have the program just work out
> > of the box like sinthony does.
> >
> > This code has been around for quite some time now and for some reason it
> > seems that oo does not seem to want to get on and put it into the program.
> >
> > The last time i asked about this on the oo list I was told that it will
> > be ready when it's ready not very helpful.  I look forward to hearing
> > good news in the near future P.S I use nvda for window's an open source
> > screen reader I am sure you have heard of it but just in case you can
> > check it out..
> >
> > On 08/09/2011 13:49, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
> > > Hi Kevin, All,
> > >
> > > (I'm answering Kevin's question in a separate thread.)
> > >
> > > When I browsed the OpenOffice.org source code at
> > > <http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/source.html>, I found a lot
> > > of Java Accessibility code but nothing that looked like IAccessible2
> > > code (which should contain some names starting with IAccessible...).
> > > Unless I looked in the wrong place, there is no IAccessible2 code that
> > > can be reused by LibreOffice. I have asked where the IAccessible2 code
> > > ended up on two mailing lists and contacted someone at IBM (i.e. the
> > > person who seemed to have checked in most of the source code). I have
> > > not received any answers, so I don't know what is going on. In my
> > > opinion, this makes a rather strange impression, especially since IBM
> > > reportedly donated that code to Oracle and an Oracle developer wrote in
> > > June (on the Apache Incubator list) that he was quite sure it would find
> > > its way to Apache OOo...
> > >
> > > I hope Oracle and/or IBM will soon clarify the situation. As long as it
> > > remains unclear if the IAccessible2 code will be released or not,
> > > LibreOffice cannot decide whether it should reuse the code or reinvent
> > > that particular wheel.
> > >
> > > The LibreOffice bug about enabling AT support during the installation is
> > > still open:<https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39803>.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 13:29 8-9-2011, Kevin Cussick wrote:
> > > "(...) Can someone give a summary to how ia2 support is coming along? or
> > > maybe not? i have heard it is now being worked on is this true? I would
> > > like to be able to just download and install without going threw hoops
> > > to get it working with the access bridge software. If ia2 is not being
> > > worked on at the moment I think the accessibility switch should be on
> > > buy default or if not during install you should be asked do you want
> > > this switched on buy default? and do you want to install the access
> > > bridge? this would be OK until such times the ia2 support that has been
> > > in sinthony for a long time now makes its way into the current code with
> > > thanks as always."
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Christophe

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All The Best
Kevin Cussick

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