Hi :) Hopefully the devs would let us know if there is an easier approach to solving any particular bug-report. Also it reasonably easy for triagers to move bug-reports from one section to another. There are something like 100 devs working on LibreOffice. New devs need "simple hacks" to help them learn and as they get more familiar they need tougher challenges. We have also seen that experienced devs are interested in helping solve issues for this list. Regards from Tom :) ________________________________ From: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <mengualjeanphi@free.fr> To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 16:03:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Setting up accessibility for screen reader Hi, I was reported nothing about the installer, so it must be accessible. So enabling the user to choose using accessibility tools at this time seems to be a good idea indeed. I also thought of a shortcut to check?uncheck the checkbox, which would work only if Java Bridge would be installed. What do you think about that? Anyway I'm ready to test any improvement about this point. Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Le jeudi 04 août 2011 à 15:09 +0200, Christophe Strobbe a écrit :
Hi, With regard to checking the option "Support assisitve technology tools" by default: Should we make a feature request to include this checkbox in the installer? Or is the installer insufficiently accessible to make this useful? Best regards, Christophe At 11:07 4-8-2011, Christophe Strobbe wrote:Hi Jean-Philippe, At 15:16 3-8-2011, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:(...) Here's what reported an user of Windows Vista, with the screen reader NVDA. At the 1st starting of LibreOffice, NVDA doesn't work. In options menu, accessibility tab, NVDA says the tabs but then, doesn't read anymore the dialogue. The user checks then the checkbox "support software for disabled people". He asks now: couldn't this checkbox checked by default? If not, it'd be important to give a way to a blind people to do the above process with some audio help, as NVDA doesn't speak until this checkbox is checked.I once read or heard that the option "Support assisitve technology tools" was not checked by default because if affects performance. Unfortunately, I can't retrieve the source of that statement anymore.Finally, note that libreoffice isn't accessible on XP, whereas it works with Vista. I don't understand well why.I have not heard of this before. How did you determine this? Is this based on inspection with Java accessibility tools (Ferret, etcetera) or on testing with specific screen readers? If it was based on testing with screen readers, were the same screen readers and versions used on both Windows XP and Vista? Was the Java Access Bridge installed on both systems? (I suppose you'll say: "Of course!") Did you have the same versions of Java on both systems? Best regards, ChristopheThanks for your answer, especially on the 1st point (the checkbox checked by default). Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL-- Christophe Strobbe-- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD Research Group on Document Architectures Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442 B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee BELGIUM tel: +32 16 32 85 51 http://www.docarch.be/ Twitter: @RabelaisA11y --- Open source for accessibility: results from the AEGIS project www.aegis-project.eu --- Please don't invite me to Facebook, Quechup or other "social networks". You may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but I haven't.
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