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Hi :)
Brilliant :)  Nicely done :)  Yes, i hadn't thought about that.
Apols and regards from
Tom :)

From: Christophe Strobbe <>
Sent: Wed, 3 August, 2011 10:42:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Default language of hyperlinks

At 20:30 2-8-2011, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
I think that post should have gone to the users list rather than this one as 
there might be people there able to help.  Hmmm, actually perhaps just posting 
it as a bug-report would be better?

Sure. It is now registered at 
<>, but I thought others could 
weigh in on the issue.

Best regards,

Regards from Tom :)
From: Christophe Strobbe <>
Sent: Tue, 2 August, 2011 18:20:35
Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] Default language of hyperlinks


When you create a hyperlink in a Writer document (LibreOffice or, the language is explicitly set to "zxx" by default (this is 
shown in the statusbar as "[None]"). In order to identify the language of a 
hyperlink, you need to explicitly set it by selecting the link and picking a 
language. The cause seems to be a default in Writer. When you unpack an ODT file 
and inspect the file "styles.xml", you will find the following lines:   
<style:style style:name="Internet_20_link" style:display-name="Internet link" 
style:family="text">    <style:text-properties fo:color="#000080" 
fo:language="zxx" fo:country="none" style:text-underline-style="solid" 
style:text-underline-width="auto" style:text-underline-color="font-color" 
style:language-asian="zxx" style:country-asian="none" 
style:language-complex="zxx" style:country-complex="none"/>   </style:style> The 
relevant attributes here are * fo:language="zxx" fo:country="none" * 
style:language-asian="zxx" style:country-asian="none" * 
style:language-complex="zxx" style:country-complex="none" It is unclear to me 
why these defaults exist. I could not find anything in the ODF 1.2 specification 
that justifies their existence. Some background from that specification (notably 
section 16.2<style:style>): "Styles defined by the <style:style> element use a 
hierarchical style model. The <style:style> element supports inheritance of 
formatting properties by a style from its parent style. A parent style is 
specified by the style:parent-style-name attribute on a <style:style> element." 
(Note that the style:style element for hyperlinks does not have a 
style:parent-style-name attribute.) "For styles with family text which are 
applied to elements which are contained in another element that specifies a 
style with family text, the search continues within the text style that is 
applied to the nearest ancestor element that specifies a style with family text, 
and continues in its parent styles." Based on this I would expect hyperlinks to 
inherit language properties from the paragraph within which it is contained. In 
my test document, they would inherit * fo:language="en" fo:country="GB" * 
style:language-asian="zh" style:country-asian="CN" * style:language-complex="ar" 
style:country-complex="SA" (I always enable East-Asian and CTL in Writer, and 
set the default language for Asian languages to "Chinese (simplified)".) 
However, the default hyperlink styles appear to prevent this. Authors usually 
forget to set the language of hyperlinks, so I would be in favour of removing 
the defaults that set the language of hyperlink text to "zxx" / "[None]". Best 
regards, Christophe -- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven

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