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Hallo *,

da das alle lokalen Communities (Dokumentation vor allem) ebenso betrifft,
leite ich das mal hierher weiter.

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Betreff: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Multimedia in Help pages
Datum:  Thu, 3 May 2018 18:10:21 +0200
Von:    Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>
An: Olivier Hallot <olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org>, LibreOffice-l10n <l10n@global.libreoffice.org>



Hi Olivier,

Thanks for bringing the discussion on the l10n process here.

My comments:
Le 03/05/2018 à 17:51, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

[...]

Further information on New Help
-------------------------------
       • New help is now build-able and package-able
         (thanks to Stephan Bergman and David Tardon)
       • New Help build distinct when ONLINE or OFFLINE
          ◦ Offline is package-able.
       • OFFLINE help already has no multimedia (<object> tag is not
rendered)

This is good to know, as it was not stated like that before and solve
several issues at once :)

       • ONLINE help has multimedia (master).
         ◦ https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/scalc/main0000.html

Options:
--------
       1. Remove all multimedia from Help either online and offline:
          1. Problem vanish.
-1

       2. Remove all multimedia from offline Help.
          => Done already

+1
       3. Implement language based multimedia enabler in XSLT / makefile
          1. --without-help-multimedia=fr
          2. if $lang = “fr” then multimedia > /dev/null

-1
       4. Have multimedia enabled and localize <object>
          1. Change href= to localized contents
          2. set width=”0” and height=”0” if no localized contents.

-1

     + was this built in discussion with l10n team ? (Michael)
         + not presented the options to them (Olivier)
            + would like to have ESC input

     + l10n team are waiting for his proposals (Sophie)
         + can we add – when video scripts are made available.
         + where are these published before embedding ?
         + expect each community to decide if they want it ? (Olivier)

I comment this at the end of this mail

     + a 5th option ? Different flavours of help  with & without ? (Heiko)
         + off-line help has no MM enabled already (Olivier)
            + the on-line site can have this.
-1

=> discuss this with the l10n teams for a decision.

---------8<----------------

What is left to work on is (not exhaustive)

+ Local teams to inform what option(s) fits best its community needs

My proposal for l10n is: better to try to reach a consensus on the
process instead having a case by case decision if this is possible.


+ Establish rules and guidelines for multimedia contents production to
address
    + Quality
    + Accuracy
    + Security
    + Privacy
    + Cultural localization
    + LibreOffice Branding and reputation
    + Licensing
    + Maintainability
    + Other relevant issues

+ Create an Editorial board to enforce the rules and guidelines above.

this is on the documentation team side.

What I would like to discuss here also is,

* once you (or the doc team) have decided to embed a video in the source:
** where is the scenario stored to translate or catch the video
** what is the process to localize (xml or html to change) the embedded file

* similarly, once you (or the doc team) have decided to embed an ODF file:
** where do we find the file before you embed it
** what is the process to localize (xml or html to change) the embedded
file.

Could this be done before it's integrated to the source, meaning we have
a dedicated place where to look when we want to translate the content?

Thanks again
Cheers
Sophie

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