[de-discuss] Fwd: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Multimedia in Help pages

Hallo *,

da das alle lokalen Communities (Dokumentation vor allem) ebenso betrifft,
leite ich das mal hierher weiter.

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Betreff: 	[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Multimedia 
in Help pages
Datum:  Thu, 3 May 2018 18:10:21 +0200
Von:    Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>
An: 	Olivier Hallot <olivier.hallot@libreoffice.org>, LibreOffice-l10n 
<l10n@global.libreoffice.org>



Hi Olivier,

Thanks for bringing the discussion on the l10n process here.

My comments:
Le 03/05/2018 à 17:51, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

[...]

> Further information on New Help
> -------------------------------
>        • New help is now build-able and package-able
>          (thanks to Stephan Bergman and David Tardon)
>        • New Help build distinct when ONLINE or OFFLINE
>           ◦ Offline is package-able.
>        • OFFLINE help already has no multimedia (<object> tag is not
> rendered)

This is good to know, as it was not stated like that before and solve
several issues at once :)

>        • ONLINE help has multimedia (master).
>          ◦ https://help.libreoffice.org/6.1/en-US/text/scalc/main0000.html
>
> Options:
> --------
>        1. Remove all multimedia from Help either online and offline:
>           1. Problem vanish.
-1

>        2. Remove all multimedia from offline Help.
>           => Done already

+1
>        3. Implement language based multimedia enabler in XSLT / makefile
>           1. --without-help-multimedia=fr
>           2. if $lang = “fr” then multimedia > /dev/null

-1
>        4. Have multimedia enabled and localize <object>
>           1. Change href= to localized contents
>           2. set width=”0” and height=”0” if no localized contents.

-1
>      + was this built in discussion with l10n team ? (Michael)
>          + not presented the options to them (Olivier)
>             + would like to have ESC input
>
>      + l10n team are waiting for his proposals (Sophie)
>          + can we add – when video scripts are made available.
>          + where are these published before embedding ?
>          + expect each community to decide if they want it ? (Olivier)

I comment this at the end of this mail
>      + a 5th option ? Different flavours of help  with & without ? (Heiko)
>          + off-line help has no MM enabled already (Olivier)
>             + the on-line site can have this.
-1
> => discuss this with the l10n teams for a decision.
>
> ---------8<----------------
>
> What is left to work on is (not exhaustive)
>
> + Local teams to inform what option(s) fits best its community needs

My proposal for l10n is: better to try to reach a consensus on the
process instead having a case by case decision if this is possible.

> + Establish rules and guidelines for multimedia contents production to
> address
>     + Quality
>     + Accuracy
>     + Security
>     + Privacy
>     + Cultural localization
>     + LibreOffice Branding and reputation
>     + Licensing
>     + Maintainability
>     + Other relevant issues
>
> + Create an Editorial board to enforce the rules and guidelines above.

this is on the documentation team side.

What I would like to discuss here also is,

* once you (or the doc team) have decided to embed a video in the source:
** where is the scenario stored to translate or catch the video
** what is the process to localize (xml or html to change) the embedded file

* similarly, once you (or the doc team) have decided to embed an ODF file:
** where do we find the file before you embed it
** what is the process to localize (xml or html to change) the embedded
file.

Could this be done before it's integrated to the source, meaning we have
a dedicated place where to look when we want to translate the content?

Thanks again
Cheers
Sophie

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