Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: [tdf-discuss] Wiki heading styles need numbering

Hi all,

Sorry for breaking the thread - mobile access during waiting for the train.

Well, I still did not understand the real reason for the change ... since the wiki content is 
expected to change very quickly. Thus, referencing to the content via section numbers might not 
work thatcher well. On the other hand, maybe the numbering engages to avoid micro-structuring and 
mis-using heading styles.

Cheers,
Christoph

David Nelson <commerce@traduction.biz> schrieb:

> Hi, :-)
>
> I'm forwarding this thread from the TDF discuss list in the hope that
> someone can implement a solution.
>
> Anyone here got the necessary permissions?
>
> TIA. ;-)
>
> David Nelson
>
>
> Forwarded conversation
> Subject: Wiki heading styles need numbering
> ------------------------
>
> From: *David Nelson* <commerce@traduction.biz>
> Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 19:58
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
>
>
> Hi, :-)
>
> I'd like to suggest that the wiki should be reconfigured so that
> headings show numbering. It would make content on pages much easier to
> refer to (I know there's numbering in the Table of Contents block but,
> IMHO, it's not enough).
>
> David Nelson
>
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> From: *Nino Novak* <nnino@openoffice.org>
> Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 20:16
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
>
>
> In localsettings.php, you can change numberheadings to 1 and be done
> with it. No code changes.[1]
>
> $wgDefaultUserOptions['numberheadings'] = 1;
>
>
> If desired, there is also an Extension [2] which allows tweaking heading
> numbering on individual pages.
>
> Nino
>
> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Auto-number_headings
> [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MagicNumberedHeadings
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> From: *Christoph Noack* <christoph.noack@documentfoundation.org>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:52
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>
> Hi Nino, hi David!
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 17.11.2010, 13:16 +0100 schrieb Nino Novak:
> David, you refer to references to the page. I think one of the
> advantages of a wiki page is, that the content might change
> quickly/easily ... and so does (might) the numbering. It is more a
> "living" document. I think this is the reason for omitting the heading
> numbers (in the default setting).
>
> I don't know if this answers you question, but I usually use the links
> from the TOC to refer to a certain section. But also they might
> change ... so there is a possibility to refer to a certain version of
> the page as well.
>
> [...]
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
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> From: *Michael Wheatland* <michael@wheatland.com.au>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:40
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
>
>
> David,
> I would also love to see heading numbering introduced into the wiki. This
> would bring the wiki format up to standard with the LibreOffice
> documentation heading format.
>
> Christoph's concern about linking is a concern. Does anyone know if heading
> numbers can be introduced into MediaWiki as a display only feature without
> impacting the links?
>
> Michael Wheatland
>
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> From: *Michael Wheatland* <michael@wheatland.com.au>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:43
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
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>
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> From: *David Nelson* <commerce@traduction.biz>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 13:21
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
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>
> Hi, :-)
> Well I guess one can "hard-write" them into the text. But then you
> need the TOC to be numberless like the headings in the body...
>
> Maybe useful to have two style sheets available - one with numbering
> and one without...
>
> David Nelson
>
> ----------
> From: *Nino Novak* <nnino@openoffice.org>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 18:54
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Cc: Michael Wheatland <michael@wheatland.com.au>
>
>
> Links are independant of the heading autonumbering of course (as you can
> switch numbering on/off in your user settings)
>
> Nino
>
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> From: *Nino Novak* <nnino@openoffice.org>
> Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 18:59
> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
> Cc: Christoph Noack <christoph.noack@documentfoundation.org>
>
>
> For quicker referencing a current topic it's fine to have autonumbering
> ON. Sometimes on longer pages there are several headings sounding very
> similar so referencing them by number clarifies unambigously which
> section is referred to. That might be wrong tomorrow, but nevertheless
> cleares things today ;-)
>
> N.
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