Re: [libreoffice-website] Home page version 20130301

On 02/03/2013 01:05, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> Il 01/03/2013 20:54, Fabian Rodriguez ha scritto:
>
> > I think you meant:
> > http://vm13.documentfoundation.org/40test/deliv_20130301/#0
>
> This is the right page, without the Apple looking monitors.
>
> > Regarding the monitors, it's my opinion this is worse. They are still
> > clearly recognizable but have buttons, which doesn't really address
> > previous concerns and modifies Apple's design. I am not even sure Apple
> > couldn't send a takedown notice since you're deriving their design for
> > other uses.
>
> These monitors are completely different from iMacs, and cannot be
> exchanged for iMacs (which have a completely different design, with a
> different border, no buttons, a different foot, and are thinner on the
> sides).
>
> If someone wants to see an iMac in one of these monitors is for two
> reasons: either he has never seen an iMac, which is possible, or he is
> against any renovation of the home page (which was definitely in dire
> need of renovation).

Don't know Italo, but as you know (much) better than me, Apple is really 
good in putting "recognizable elements" in his products to enforce their 
branding and subliminal recall.
I really see a recognizable element still present, and is the monitor 
foot. As you stated in another post, I agree to remove it if we can't 
find something else.
When judging if is a Apple monitor we don't have to focus on details 
("our has buttons", "border thick") but what the images recalls.
I.e. images in "discover it" page seems a... new iMac model, due to 
their foot (recognizable unique element) and general design ;P

In any case TDF has to seriously decide if it's still on the FOSS side 
or not, because this ridiculously long to solve issue, and the attitude 
of one TDF board member leaves me speechless when tries to negate the 
problem and ridicule it.
In the TDF statute there is a clear point:
"spreading the philosophical and cultural ideals of FLOSS"
(btw, this should be put in the "manifesto" as well, OMHO, that is too 
narrowed to office suite/data format)

I don't think that project/community/foundation that takes user's 
freedom seriously can even *immagin* to put an Apple product in their 
home page. Here not only happened but also took 1 month and a lot of 
extenuating discussion to (I do hope) fix!!! And the wrong pages are 
still online!

I do hope this is the occasion for the TDF to ponder and result in a 
increased FOSS commitment.

Best regards
Marco Menardi

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