Re: [libreoffice-website] Stepping Back to Site IA

Hello,

On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:45 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi Benjamin, *,
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Benjamin Horst <bhorst@mac.com> wrote:
> > What pages will the site include at its launch? Only those currently on the TDF website?
>
> How do you define "at its launch". So yes, when the "sitch is turned
> over" going from the current website to the cms driven website, the
> pages that are currently on the TDF website are a must-have.

Yes, exactly. The day it first becomes publicly visible is its launch.

> I'd not go into changing visual design yet.
>
> Depending on the progress of the german-lang testsite, a couple of
> pages from that area could be part of the initial launch as well.

Can you list them here please? I want to get a feel for the architecture implications.

> But with initial launch I really mean the day when the switch is made.
> After that, when groups can be established, those groups would add
> their own content.

This is also what I expected.

> > If that is our plan, then the CMS choice is much simpler.
> >
> > I've written a list of pages as I think they should be organized in the wiki,
>
> Unfortunately you put it into a document that needs to be downloaded
> to be viewed, and thus cannot easily be modified/adapted.

On the contrary, they are listed right on the wiki page. They are replicated in the ODG file 
(slightly modified) but you don't need to download it to see them. (As a side note, you can easily 
modify and re-upload the file into the wiki, which will track versions as they are uploaded.)

> I think the current 8 main-pages as we have now are a good start for
> the initial launch, after all you can only create the pages when you
> got the content for it.
> (and of course it's not written in stone, you're always free to change
> the site structure afterwards)

Yes, but organizational inertia makes this much more difficult in practice.

> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Evaluation_of_CMS_Platforms#Information_Architecture
> >
> > Christian: What is your expectation for site IA? Can you list the site sections and pages you 
> > envision, especially if they are very different from what I have put onto the wiki?
>
> Well, as you especially mentioned future needs, then I'd say that the
> libreoffice part will be much shorter no the main TDF page, after all
> it will someday have it's own page at libreoffice.org (that currently
> just links to the foundation page)
>
> But really I'd not go into details of the structure right now, i think
> it's too early.

I think we need to plan the structure as much as possible before implementing. This will prevent us 
from making mistakes and having to backtrack / redo our work later.

> > Finally, based on what I have observed from Mozilla's organization, shouldn't we consider two 
> > entirely
> > separate websites at different domains (one for TDF, and one for LibO)?
>
> Ah, you got the same opinion on that one :-) - see above.
>
> As to your layout proposals: I'd be happy to leave that decision to
> marketing/branding - putting a corresponding frontpage and css
> together is way easier than to actually agree upon a design :->
>
> > I think this would be much easier for users to understand, as they'd want to spend their time on 
> > the
> > LibO site. Meanwhile, community participants would mostly use the TDF site. Perhaps we could
> > make one of these sites use SilverStripe and one use Drupal, as a compromise...
>
> Not sure whether that is a good idea, but Steering Committee has final
> word anyway.

Drupal allows power and flexibility; SilverStripe allows editor simplicity. The site that would 
require heavy community features and data driven pages would be Drupal. The site that is more 
"brochure-ware" would be SilverStripe. Seems like a fair way to resolve the current impasse, and 
road-test both CMS platforms in realworld conditions for our project.

-Ben

Benjamin Horst
bhorst@mac.com
646-464-2314 (Eastern)
www.solidoffice.com


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