[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 133820] Difficult to set/override footnote separator line direction

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133820

--- Comment #6 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz@technion.ac.il> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
I gave a list of possible ways to achieve a certain result. Assuming we agree
that it is difficult to figure out how and where to change the Page Style - it
doesn't make sense to argue against all individual suggestions without positing
an alternative suggestion.

So, how do you propose to make changing the page-footnote-style more
accessible?


Now, to the individual points.

> > 1.1 have the Page-Footnote-Style available directly (e.g. an extra tab in
> > Footnote & Endnote settings), or
>
> Footnote properties are part of the page style

So? they're also part of the Footnote & Endnote settings. You have an
intersection of two sets of properties/settings here.

> (use the Styles & Formatting sidebar > page styles 

Uh, this whole bug is about how people don't and won't go there to change the
placement of the footnote separator.

> to add/modify, eg. with right aligned lines on right sides- or vice versa for RTL).

This brings up another, significant, issue: Most people don't know that there
even is such a thing as an "Right page" and "Left page". In fact, I find it
bothersome to even have to think about that. It's also confusing, because you
ask yourself "what happens when content gets pushed forward from a Right page
into a Left page? Or "Is that like verso vs recto? Odd vs Even?" etc.

> > 1.2 have a button which opens up the Page-Footnote-Style settings in a
> > (modal?) dialog
>
> We actually show the PS in the dialog,

I was talking about a new dialog, with a new button. What do you mean by "the
dialog"?

> wouldn't it be a
> bit "surprising" if you can switch to landscape in the footnote properties?

... this is why my suggestion here is for there be a separate dialog for _just_
toe Page-Footnote-Style; where you can't change the page style to landscape.

> > 1.3 Indicate, with a text label, where one can change the
> > Page-Footnote-Style settings.
>
> Showing the current PS in the drop down makes definitely sense. Not sure
> that this is an ultimate solution for your problem, though.

That's not what I suggested. I mean, for example, having the Footer pane of the
Page Style dialog have a sentence saying something like "For Footnote Settings,
switch to the Footnotes pane" or something like that.

> > 2. Please consider having a right-click on the separator be a different
> > thing than a right-click on the area of an actual footnote.
>
> As a direct formatting not possible, I guess. 

This suggestion is not about direct formatting.

> And again, changing the page
> style not via dedicated dialog is weird.

Not sure why you mention that here. When I right-click the footnote separator,
I don't need to say "Paste", "Paste Special", "Clone Formatting" etc - it
doesn't belog

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