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Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #76 from Martin Sourada <martin.sourada@gmail.com> ---
Just my two cents, as this hits me every time I teach students how to style
pages. So I'd plead for reconsidering this feature request.

1. I understand that the page margins in LO are counted similar as if they were
print margins. The math is easy to follow and fairly easy to understand.

2. I can do the math to make it behave right (it's really easy, unless you need
multiline content).

3. If I'd take something as a standard (or maybe better wording would be
reference implementation/behaviour) it would definitely not be Word, but
(La)TeX -- and well, in (La)TeX, page margins are all the way to text body,
i.e. header/footer is inside the margins (add
\usepackage[left=2cm,right=2cm,top=2cm,bottom=2cm]{geometry} to preamble and
see the result).

4. For most usecases (all *my* usecases) this could be solved by:

 a) enabling Dynamic spacing by default (companion to autofit height)

 b) automatically recounting margin when header/footer gets inserted/changed,
the math is easy, so it shouldn't be hard to implement (even if you add rules,
pt can be converted to cm/in as needed), there could even be a tick somewhere
to enable/disable this behaviour (probably in Writer settings, as one user
would want it to behave same for all his documents).

 c) *or* enabling (empty) header/footer with reasonable margin + header/footer
height/spacing settings by default on basic page styles (i.e. no unexpected
change to text body when adding header/footer, because you would actually only
add content to it)

5. Somewhat harder would probably be growing header (upwards -- in UI I would
expect a tick (probably radiobutton) called Dynamic margin that would also
untick Dynamic spacing and vice versa), not sure though if that would comply
with ODT standards...

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