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--- Comment #15 from Cor Nouws <cno@nouenoff.nl> ---
Hi Jay,

(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #14)

We have many common shortcut that require two hands to hit that are even
more basic than stylist or navigator, e.g. Ctrl + P (Print), Ctrl + O
(Open), Ctrl + N (New). On Mac, users have to use two hands to hit any of
the Function keys, as they have to press the Fn key as well.

It might be because I use Ctrl+P and Ctr+O quite seldom, or because Ctrl+Shift
asks for a little twist and/combined with the move from my right hand to the
left side of the key board, that for me this has a different weight.

I can't imagine that it is because we get old and grumpy... isn't it, Eike ?

Additionally, both features are something that other office suites don't
offer and that help to organize the document and its formatting, 

MS Office has both a stylist
(http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/images/stylesFPane2010.gif) and
navigator (http://www.dkszone.net/editing-in-ms-word-2010-simplified-with),

I never liked that styles window, but maybe it is better now. After all.
MsOffice improves too, as they do with a simple version of the Navigator.

though not as powerful/extensive as the one found in LO. Both of these tools
are useful for those who utilize them.

Sure.

Particular users of all office suites dont know/use styles and having a
stylist in LO wont change that behaviour. There are users who use styles
(normally more advanced users) and users who dont use styles (normally less
advanced users) and that wont ever change unless direct formatting is
completely eliminated. In the same way, we have users who may use the
Navigator (advanced users) and users who likely wont (non-advanced users).

We should make the stylist and navigator available to those who use it, but
we should avoid assigning them to shortcut keys that are an OS standard for
something else in order to improve LO integrate with those OSes and reduce
the learning curve for users. Imagine what users would say if we has
assigned Ctrl + Z to anything else but undo.

Maybe indeed for new/basic users, good visibility in the Side bar is more
important, yes.

Cheers - Cor

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