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--- Comment #7 from Octavio Alvarez <alvarezp@alvarezp.ods.org> ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #5)
The icon is *the most important change* among all that I suggested becuase,
as I said on IRC: it currently sends a wrong visual message.

I'm assuming you mean it sends the wrong visual message without the icon.

Yes. It sends the message of 'choose a template to save over'. It gives no
visual cues whatsoever that saving as a new template is possible at all.

Bear me with this thought: It gave me a choice of templates and I had a
'Save' button. I don't want to save it to any of those. By having a choice
of templates I expect to click on one of those and then clicking 'Save' to
perform my will.

That is quite opposite to the universal workflow of saving anything. When
you open the Save or Save As dialog, the primary thing is to select a folder
if neede, which may have existing files in it, and then type a new file name.

I'd like to be more precise: when opening a Save As dialog, the primary thing
is to select a *target file*, not a location. Choosing a location is just a
requirement.

The current screen only gives visual cues for choosing existing files, not a
new one. It doesn't give visual cues of location.

I can't predict what the 'Save' button does before clicking it (a priori).
It currently turns out that clicking 'Save' actually asks for something.
This is completely opposite to the currently existing, universal workflow
of saving *anything*.

Yes as there isnt a filename field to type in the template name, a dialog
appears after clicking the 'Save' button. This isnt that outside of the norm
that it would confuse users.

I didn't get the last sentence, sorry.

But if I understand correctly, what you say is also correct. As an alternative
to the 'Save as new template' icon, there could be --instead-- a text field for
choosing a new name *before* clicking 'Save'.

At least, when a new 'Save as new template' icon is introduced as one of
the options, it will visually guide me to click on it because that's what I
want to do and then think 'Ok, I selected something, now I must find a
button to perform the save'.

I find this quite confusing that if i wanted to save something, i would have
to preselect an item already in the list of file/template names and then
click a Save button. Maybe the simplest thing is to do would be to change
the 'Save' button to 'Save Template Here'.

The simplest thing is to use a simple 'Save As' dialog. That's it.

With the 'Save as new template' icon, yes, you would have to preselect an item
already in the list (but there is now a cue to know what to do to save a new
template).

Renaming the button to 'Save template here' is still confusing if there are no
visual cues. When given a choice of already existing templates and a 'Save
template here', I feel like I *must* choose one of the templates before
clicking the button, which leads to overwriting. The window does not cue that
is giving the choice of location; the icons are the most prominent.

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