Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove outdated Gallery images

Hi Samuel,

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com>wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> thanks for your comments. I'll remove the options to link gallery images
> and also try to build an extension.
>
> I think I'll then leave the bullets there until they are replaced by some
> up-to-date ones.
>
> For the "Add" button in the bullets and numbering dialog, we could make an
> easy hack out of that. But the question then is, are these images stored
> globally or only for the current document?

Ideally, there should be a "LibreOffice Bullets" section with the
globally-stored bullets and a "Document Bullets" section below with all the
bullets present in the document except those shipped by default.
Instead of an "Add" button, it should be a "Custom graphic..." button,
which would add the bullet to the "Document Bullets" section.

> Samuel
>
> Am 26.07.2013 13:42, schrieb Mirek M.:
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I created a patch that removes the outdated Gallery images:
> > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993
> > Now there were some objections because of breaking old documents (when
> > people have linked content from the gallery into their documents).
>
>  Could you remove the GUI for linking Gallery images? (I notice that the
> choice is presented via a right-click menu and in the "Bullets and
> Numbering" dialog, but perhaps there are other choices?)
> Documents should never rely on stuff shipped with LibreOffice. If they do,
> the user will sooner or later be stuck on an outdated version of
> LibreOffice.
>
>  Also I removed the bullets which are used in the "Bullets and Numbering"
> > dialog.
>
> > You can some opinions on the thread on the Dev list here:
> > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html
> >
> > Now the questions are:
> > - Is it ok to break old documents by removing these images from the
> > galleries?
>
>  Yes, but it might be good to provide an option to get the graphics via
> an extension. Would that be possible?
>
>  - Do we also want to remove the sounds?
> >
>
>  I would say yes, but again, would be good to have an extension to bring
> them back for those who unwisely linked them.
>
>
> > - Do we also want to remove the whole "Graphical bullets" feature?
>
>  No. I can imagine graphical bullets being useful [1], but it'd be good
> to have a GUI for importing them. A simple "Add..." button in the Graphic
> bullets section in LibreOffice would suffice.
>
> > Please share your thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Samuel
>
> [1] Here's someone asking how to import their own bullets:
> http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com>wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> thanks for your comments. I'll remove the options to link gallery images
> and also try to build an extension.
>
> I think I'll then leave the bullets there until they are replaced by some
> up-to-date ones.
>
> For the "Add" button in the bullets and numbering dialog, we could make an
> easy hack out of that. But the question then is, are these images stored
> globally or only for the current document?
>
> Samuel
>
> Am 26.07.2013 13:42, schrieb Mirek M.:
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I created a patch that removes the outdated Gallery images:
> > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993
> > Now there were some objections because of breaking old documents (when
> > people have linked content from the gallery into their documents).
>
>  Could you remove the GUI for linking Gallery images? (I notice that the
> choice is presented via a right-click menu and in the "Bullets and
> Numbering" dialog, but perhaps there are other choices?)
> Documents should never rely on stuff shipped with LibreOffice. If they do,
> the user will sooner or later be stuck on an outdated version of
> LibreOffice.
>
>  Also I removed the bullets which are used in the "Bullets and Numbering"
> > dialog.
>
> > You can some opinions on the thread on the Dev list here:
> > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html
> >
> > Now the questions are:
> > - Is it ok to break old documents by removing these images from the
> > galleries?
>
>  Yes, but it might be good to provide an option to get the graphics via
> an extension. Would that be possible?
>
>  - Do we also want to remove the sounds?
> >
>
>  I would say yes, but again, would be good to have an extension to bring
> them back for those who unwisely linked them.
>
>
> > - Do we also want to remove the whole "Graphical bullets" feature?
>
>  No. I can imagine graphical bullets being useful [1], but it'd be good
> to have a GUI for importing them. A simple "Add..." button in the Graphic
> bullets section in LibreOffice would suffice.
>
> > Please share your thoughts.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Samuel
>
> [1] Here's someone asking how to import their own bullets:
> http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280