Hi Michel, everyone,
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Michel Renon <michel.renon@free.fr> wrote:
Hi all,
Le 10/05/2013 17:06, Cor Nouws a écrit :
Hi all,
Worked myself through the list with template related issues and - apart
from all great progress - found a few that are still open. And with 4.1
approaching rapidly...
60589 - [Template manager]: Can not copy styles between different files
and templates
I would say that the only one being able to work on that is Mirek : as he
strongly designed the new Template Manager, he must know how to do that.
*why is Mirek silent for such a long time on this subject ?*
As I really don't understand how the new Template Manager was designed, I
absolutely have no idea how to correct that bug in the new Template Manager.
So, a few things to clear up:
* I've been silent because I have been missing my own computer. (For the
past month or so, I've been borrowing computers and it was quite hard to be
productive.) That's been solved yesterday.
* The way the template manager is now is miles away from the proposed
design. The proposed design was a simple iCloud/Gnome Documents-like
template launcher with a two level hierarchy. [1][2] The current
implementation is a more conventional complex Explorer-like file manager
with unlimited hierarchy. Given that I wasn't in favor of the shift in
focus to organizing templates rather than creating new documents from
templates, I'm not the best person to design for the dialog.
My only proposal is based on something existing :
(I just saw it has already been proposed by Raphael on 09/04/2013)
in the "Styles & Formatting" window, there are buttons on top. In Writer,
there is even a popup with an action "Load Styles..." :
It opens a dialog that has nearly what you need :
- the list of categories of templates, then the list of templates
- it can copy some styles from the selected template to the current
document.
My idea is to simply extend it by integrating code from old template
manager (v3.6). As those dialogs seems similar, I suppose it should not
require a complete rewrite.
Then, maybe add this action ("Load Styles...") in "Styles & Formatting"
for Calc, Impress and Draw.
If you think it might be a solution, then I can make a more precise
proposal.
The dialog seems to support only a two level hierarchy, so it's not
compatible with the current template manager folder structure.
I would propose just having separate "Load Styles from Template" and "Load
Styles from File" entries in the Styles and Formatting menu, with the
former launching the Template manager, but without a toolbar and with
"Cancel" and "Load" buttons at the bottom right, and the latter launching
the Open dialog.
61396 - FILEOPEN: [Template Manager]Possibility to edit a template that
is not in the repository, is lacking
I saw a comment with the proposal :
"when a user does "Open" from the "File" menu and selects a template, then
LO should open the template" ; instead of creating a new file from the
template".
It seems to be a coherent behavior : the user selects the command "open"
so LO must open. When the user selects "new from template", then LO must
create a new file from a template.
Sounds good.
If you really want to prevent modification of bad file, maybe add an
dialog asking confirmation : "Do you really want to open the template
'test.ott' ? or create a new file from this template ?"
Perhaps an infobar might be better?
and related
59427 - [Template Manager] low discoverability of new template manager
- we could use "File → Organize templates" menu
I agree
[1] http://ia.net/blog/mountain-lions-new-file-system/
[2] https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Documents
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